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Ninja- Need more Rework/change of useless Skill
Jul 31, 2023, 00:18 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Aug 3, 2023, 18:40 (UTC)
# 1

 I want to say that the Ninja class being one of the most skill-demand in the game there are 3 things that really need to be changed!

!. Flow; Kick Down is a useless skill that no ninja use if any at all!

2. Ninja Evation I, II, III. I don't know why that's even in there! It doesn't have any kind of buff nor does it actually evade any attacks. It! 's 100% useless in PVP. The skill says is only invisible while in PVE ...instead of pve  that is  meaningless,  it would be more useful and much more need it in pvp

3. Ground Thrust, this skill is even harder to use in pvp just for the simple reason that u have to jump to actually perform and while jumping without any kind of protection is really a Useless skill!! and many people don't even use it because is meaningless in pvp and even more in pve!!

. Sky Stepping - double jump flip-back wards sideways or forward should be made a protected or an Iframe because is useless in PVP and not that important in PVE,  any ninja crazy enough to do that in pvp it knows that is 90-100% likely to get killed!

5. Blade Spin I,II, II needs major work, the damage is insignificant compared to other classes black spirit rage  100s% in pve, it should be one of the most damaging skills and it's not.. the pve damage should be increased! and I say this taking into account that while performing the skills it has a really high percentage of miss/immune or being blocked 

While others bsr 100% do major damage and can one-shot you, the damage for Blade Spin is cut by 3  parts of the skill during animation,  the damage is really insignificant not including mostly getting blocked or missed.....

The down smash function rarely activates upon hitting a  cc down opponent on the last attack. that last attack should be removed and just have the effect of down smash take effect when it hits a downed opponent.

If the sky stepping skill gets protected or Iframe the link skill Ground Thrust will be usable in pvp more often! and it will not be an unused useless skill!

PA knows that the ninja is a class that not many people play for the simple reason that!

1. It's a difficult class, one mistake in combos and that it...

2 there are way too many super easy classes to play with instead of a ninja or Kuno

3. The ninja Succession still needs a lot more work in the PVE area, the damage to mobs still lacking and is a lot of work to do combos on mobs that should be easy to kill. 

for example. Ninja 292/291 ap - 375 dp in Thornwoods a 250 ap -320 dp. it needs a lot more effort in killing mobs than any other class. Guardians, Musas, Valkeryss, Berzerkes, Megus, and Woosass, can with 290+ ap can literally 1-2 shot the mobs and that's not including the artifacts or crystals!

Why and what's the real reason to have 1 or 2 difficult classes when it's not even rewarding nor satisfying if the rest of the classes can do better and outperform it in PVP and PVE? Is it for diversity? if that's the case make the ninja less skilled based by reducing the difficulty in combos or by giving him more more damage.  I can name 5  classes that can finish you with just 2 skills and yet the ninja has to do more than 3-4 skills to get the job done!

People that play the Ninja literally are forced to play another class just for the simple reason of difficulty in doing combos to finish an opponent.

and I have to agree that there is a malicious ultra motive for that! 

 

Last Edit : Jul 31, 2023, 19:36 (UTC)
# 2

Skill Issue.

Last Edit : Jul 31, 2023, 20:27 (UTC)
# 3
On: Jul 31, 2023, 19:36 (UTC), Written by Laikabutterfly

Skill Issue.

I bet you suffer from it ... that's why am proposing to PA to make it easier for all Ninja players. But that's ok I bet that doesn't include you.

But let's say is a skill Issue. what about it, are you saying you are the best ninja out there and you use all the skills available? if so you must have godskills especially if you play ninja. do you?

Is that all you going to say well I guess you don't play ninja or care about the class, then why bother coming to this topic with nothing positive to say? how sad of you.

At least you could give a suggestion! 

If the skills I mentioned above don't need work, then tell me why not, I bet you can't even come up with nothing. 

Last Edit : Jul 31, 2023, 21:36 (UTC)
# 4

You should see awakening pve dmg. lol. Thou technically you can "1shot" thornwood mobs with serpent into vacuum. Not guaranteed and gruping them is probablly where the "skill" part comes into play.  
It does make you invisible in owpvp since mobs are always there. But not sure if its 100% that or if the desync was real lol. You can never know in bdo. 

Ground trhust is cool for movement when you try to disengage/escape. 

Last Edit : Jul 31, 2023, 22:32 (UTC)
# 5
On: Jul 31, 2023, 21:35 (UTC), Written by Findubar

You should see awakening pve dmg. lol. Thou technically you can "1shot" thornwood mobs with serpent into vacuum. Not guaranteed and gruping them is probablly where the "skill" part comes into play.  
It does make you invisible in owpvp since mobs are always there. But not sure if its 100% that or if the desync was real lol. You can never know in bdo. 

Ground trhust is cool for movement when you try to disengage/escape. 

Succession Ninja is the issue with grinding in Thornwood  one of many examples:

either increase damage or decreased the need for combos needed

The skill Ninja Evasion. it says in the description that you are only invisible in PvE. and in PvP it does not work, attacks will hit you. I don't know if it made it on purpose but that's the most useless evasion skill to use in pvp, if used in pvp, you will get cc/kd every time.  and the movement buffs that it gives don't make sense. it's a Ninja evasion it should give an evasion bonus too!

Ground Thrust needs change/buff. like, for example, making the animation faster, especially if it's used for escaping and disengaging. and the protection of SA should last longer. And that's if you do the skill link to it. but the skill without being linked or combo is useless.

Last Edit : Aug 1, 2023, 07:41 (UTC)
# 6

u honestly want no-cd spammable low stam cost pvp iframe on a class that is already giga mobile, has 1-2 grabs depending on the spec, has stealth and can put away majority of not tanky classes in few hits?

Last Edit : Aug 1, 2023, 08:30 (UTC)
# 7
On: Jul 31, 2023, 22:22 (UTC), Written by FiendGodKing

Succession Ninja is the issue with grinding in Thornwood  one of many examples:

either increase damage or decreased the need for combos needed

The skill Ninja Evasion. it says in the description that you are only invisible in PvE. and in PvP it does not work, attacks will hit you. I don't know if it made it on purpose but that's the most useless evasion skill to use in pvp, if used in pvp, you will get cc/kd every time.  and the movement buffs that it gives don't make sense. it's a Ninja evasion it should give an evasion bonus too!

Ground Thrust needs change/buff. like, for example, making the animation faster, especially if it's used for escaping and disengaging. and the protection of SA should last longer. And that's if you do the skill link to it. but the skill without being linked or combo is useless.

Yes they will hit you since invizible is not invulnerable. It does work in pvevx as it says. Awa ninja has way worse pve damage than succ. Ground thrust is usefull in a way since you need to doublejump to get the movespeed anyway. And you can curve the landing. Its not good but its something, i guess. I do agree that the class is very weak în pve

Last Edit : Aug 1, 2023, 12:35 (UTC)
# 8

they really make it very easy for me to get BAN in the forum. 

Seriously ninjas are asking for more rework? Tell me Nino what do you want now? a bazooka? an AK47? I don't understand what these new players of today have in mind.

Last Edit : Aug 1, 2023, 15:32 (UTC)
# 9
On: Aug 1, 2023, 07:41 (UTC), Written by WhySoSeeryus

u honestly want no-cd spammable low stam cost pvp iframe on a class that is already giga mobile, has 1-2 grabs depending on the spec, has stealth and can put away majority of not tanky classes in few hits?

It's sad that the people that don't play Ninja or don't have experience or even worst the people that played Ninja saw how hard it was and then changed to a different class, come here to complain, LMAO  but yet when it comes to their class they scream to the skies for a miracle.

@WhySoSeeryus, I have played against you in AOS,  why u hating Ninja when is not even a class you play? Sad and if you say the ninja is that awesome why don't you play it still or main it ? if is so good and doesn't need more work then why don't more people play it? I know why because I main a lv 66 for 7 years I grind and PvP and I can say that the Ninja still needs work! 

Let's put like like this, People like you complain about the ninjas just because you got Beating up by a good Ninja player either because he had better gear or had better skill than you or you have this idea that the class is op maybe because yall have been watching Armin.

and that 1 or 2 % of actually good ninja players is a small scale. There are more people playing different classes than the ninja, Kunos, or tamer.

Don't talk about grabs there are other classes that got more grabs with higher chances and others that have long-range grabs even the Sage and Wizrds have grabs! and there are classes that are hard to cc so the only way is to grab and that is if you are lucky, so ur argument is really weak.

and Stealth, LOL LMAO that's the only way that the ninja has to save his already sry squishy class. wait that's the only way he can stay alive in a group either small, medium,or large scale, and is not even that dependable because any AOE/AOA can get him out of it.....

your argument against the Ninja is weak and sad especially if you do not play it , have experience playing with it 

This is about Skills that really need rework this is Important :) !!

Last Edit : Aug 1, 2023, 15:45 (UTC)
# 10
On: Aug 1, 2023, 12:35 (UTC), Written by Girask

they really make it very easy for me to get BAN in the forum. 

Seriously ninjas are asking for more rework? Tell me Nino what do you want now? a bazooka? an AK47? I don't understand what these new players of today have in mind.

@Giraks I have played against you before in AOS and I have seen you and fought you before in Open World, and you came here to complain about Nija when you are a Berzerker really man that's really sad of you..

Yes, they should give us a Bazooka, I wish!! and I don't know what you mean by new players but you got one thing wrong in BDO if you call anyone lv 66 New you have issues.

The skills that I am talking about need rework /buffs because unlike other classes the ninja has to actually use more skills and those 3 skills I mention any Ninja player understands!

But not people like you!

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