Everything about this game's PvP systems glorify toxic behavior.

- 600+ GS players coming to 180AP spots to grief players who belongs there out.

- Mob Feeding

- DFS

- Taking off gear so that the harasser lose even more Karma.

The griefing is the pillars of this game's PvP. The funny you complain about losing karma, but don't complain about Mob Feeding. Because one can be used against you while the other one you can use in your favor. Quite hypocritcal of you ah?

Anyways the Dev team gave you the tools to avoid losing Karma from killing players. It's called the Arsha server my dude, use it. 

Anyways go ahead have the Devs here penalize people simply from being PKed by griefers. I'm willing to bet you'll lose a good potion of your playerbase. To the point that these Devs will either shut down the game. Or hand it over to one of the graveyards games go to completely die. But that's what you want right?

No one misunderstood anything, you just want the Karma rules to apply when it's convenient for you.

Stop flagging yourself and you won't lose Karma, if you can kill someone easily, you can also out-kill mobs easily. Stop pulling mobs when someone is hanging around and you won't be fed to mobs.

If you can't manage these things, play on Arsha.

Many people here are too blinded with hate to understand. For many people karmabombing and KS is ok, but PK is hellish act. Simply because is the only punishment to their griefing. Also everyone who says go to Arsha never was on Arsha and know nothing. ....

Lets hope bounty system will balance the things. Otherways karmabombing and mobfeeding wont go away.

Not true. For example I PK only when I cant outfarm, and thats versus every class basicaly. SO I should loose karma every time when someone comes to griefs me ? Luckily I never been feeded to mobs, but should someone stop kill the mobs because someone try to feed? That seems prety easy way to take over a grind spot - another proove that karma system needs rework. It needs to work in both ways.

You are not the main character of BDO, they are not your mobs, it's not griefing to kill mobs just because someone else is in a 100 mile radius.

There are so many ways to deal with people, or just switch spots or server and not deal at all, but instead you just cry cry and cry because there are other people in your MMORPG.

You think that when you farm spot belong only to you. Everyone who did purhase a game have same right to be on spot as you so learn to share

If you think KSing is not griefing. then PKing someone non stop isnt too. Mob feding also. Griefing is stil griefing, and because you like to karmabomb and KS this dont change it.

You can deal with people with simple talk, changing channels, DFS, PK, guild war or whatever you like. Its in the game its legit.

If you like to karmabomb its not problem to be feeded by mobs then. Its your desision. But some people thing both karmabomb and mob feeding as flaw in the sistem. And they want it improved.

.. or they were on the spot and then someone else come and starts to grief them. There's no way to tell the difference.

And again - Arsha is never overcrouded, I never saw it to be like that even on weekends.

Someone above appealed "but bosses don't spawn" - you don't go into DFS for field/world bosses, so - not relevant.

During these 50% loot drop increase on all servers, Arsha is pretty empty. Because big portion of players who go there, go for the PvE anyway, and the loot drop boost the server gives. 
Even if you had 10 arsha servers, people would still complain about karma.
There are plenty of ways to remove people from ''your'' spot without pressing alt+c, or spamming dfs for whatever reason. Be creative.

Also, a lot of this would be easier to deal with, if only we had the option to stop the lootscroll, like we have with agris points. A lot of people feel pressured due to their lootscrolls running, which leads to pretty agressive behaviour. PA has an option to reduce this drama in the playerbase, but they choose not to.

The Karma system is fine.

Its the lack of Force to rez town and cooldown ( a least after multiple death in a 30 min windows) that is the problem.

Asked for 5 years. Never received.

Even the devs of 20 years ago knew that it takes penalties and risk in both camps for it to be qualitative.