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Karma system
Mar 27, 2021, 18:32 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Apr 1, 2021, 07:57 (UTC)
# 211
On: Apr 1, 2021, 06:41 (UTC), Written by Columba

I rezz tear, aand fight as hard as I can.  I avoid others' rotations.  I don't remove armor.  I don't duel for spot.  I don't care if others grind in an area where I was first and was alone.  I win half the fights when I rezz and fight (rezzing at 5%). I will not leave an area when I was there first not bothering anyone.  I am called a karmabomber.  That's why I basically laugh at that term.

If you're fighting back, I don't see why one would call you karmabomber to begin with? If they use owpvp against you to steal the spot, they shouldn't complain about you using the same method? 

Last Edit : Apr 1, 2021, 08:47 (UTC)
# 212
On: Apr 1, 2021, 07:57 (UTC), Written by Sadalsuud

If you're fighting back, I don't see why one would call you karmabomber to begin with? If they use owpvp against you to steal the spot, they shouldn't complain about you using the same method? 

Because the majority of this community is not very smart, if you don't accept DFS you're automatically the griefer (reminds me of kindergarden, where the spoiled kid had to have his way).

 

In my book the only correct way is first come first served (which is what I utilize) if I own a spot and you invade it asking DFS (and KS'ing afterwards) I'm gonna declare war, simple as that.

Last Edit : Apr 1, 2021, 08:48 (UTC)
# 213
On: Mar 27, 2021, 18:32 (UTC), Written by Rafalus

Hello,

I am appealing to you Pearl Abbys to fix the karma system in the game. I am sick of the constant griefing and karma bombing on spots by people who have lost duel for spot. This kind of toxic behavior just destroys this game and many people have stopped playing Black Desert because of it.

For many years players have been asking for this system to be remodeled because it doesn't work properly and still nothing has changed. I am fed up. How many years can we be ignored as a community? I am asking you as the next thousandth person to remodel this system or eventually remove it from the game altogether.

 

Stop crying and go to arsha.

Last Edit : Apr 1, 2021, 09:06 (UTC)
# 214
On: Apr 1, 2021, 08:33 (UTC), Written by Wolfenzero

Because the majority of this community is not very smart, if you don't accept DFS you're automatically the griefer (reminds me of kindergarden, where the spoiled kid had to have his way).

 

In my book the only correct way is first come first served (which is what I utilize) if I own a spot and you invade it asking DFS (and KS'ing afterwards) I'm gonna declare war, simple as that.

I'd tell it differently, but I think our visions are similar : in my book players can use whichever method they want as long as the goal is the spot, the challenge, but not if the goal is to simply bother another player. In short, the intent is what is important for me. 

Last Edit : Apr 1, 2021, 13:06 (UTC)
# 215
On: Mar 27, 2021, 20:02 (UTC), Written by BigMystake

Funny thing is, there's probably less PvP on Arsha cause you can't grief there, because if you start some shit, it's not gonna end.

There absolutely is less PvP on Arsha because people respect each other's boundaries. If you aren't in SE you're basically golden because everyone wants that 50% drop rate and don't want to waste loot scrolls.

Last Edit : Apr 1, 2021, 21:19 (UTC)
# 216
On: Apr 1, 2021, 09:06 (UTC), Written by Sadalsuud

I'd tell it differently, but I think our visions are similar : in my book players can use whichever method they want as long as the goal is the spot, the challenge, but not if the goal is to simply bother another player. In short, the intent is what is important for me. 

The intent is ultimately meaningless.  If someone wants to flex or go around pking because they enjoy it, then the intent doesn't matter at all.  Remember it's a PVP game?

 

In fact according to Pearl Abyss you are supposed to SUPRESS your opponents and destroy their ability to progress in the game.  This is done as part of the COMPEITITVE game environement where stiffling your opponents is INTENDED.

 

That's WHY you could DESTROY TRADE ITEMS from other adventures.  You where SUPPOSED to view them as your ENEMY/OPPONENT and make them suffer loses so they would not gain ground and over power YOU.

 

You are supposed to destroy your opponents, survival of the FITTEST.

 

True story brah.

 

This is the SAME system and reasoning Ashes of Creation is trying to create.  In addition, since that is the case, stiffling, hindering, or supressing opponents by ANY means is intended game play.  If you can lock them out of an area, disrupt their life skills, etc you are following the original design AND INTENT of the game.

 

Pearl Abyss can't even figure out their own game intent is actually in conflict with their own TOS because what they think they want is so highly toxic it's unplayable for many players.  And that then conflicts with the TOS which has an objective of making money and thus not driving away customers.  Thus Pearl Abyss has a conflict of interest with itself.

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Last Edit : Apr 2, 2021, 01:19 (UTC)
# 217
On: Apr 1, 2021, 21:14 (UTC), Written by Retteo

The intent is ultimately meaningless.  If someone wants to flex or go around pking because they enjoy it, then the intent doesn't matter at all.  Remember it's a PVP game?

 

In fact according to Pearl Abyss you are supposed to SUPRESS your opponents and destroy their ability to progress in the game.  This is done as part of the COMPEITITVE game environement where stiffling your opponents is INTENDED.

 

That's WHY you could DESTROY TRADE ITEMS from other adventures.  You where SUPPOSED to view them as your ENEMY/OPPONENT and make them suffer loses so they would not gain ground and over power YOU.

 

You are supposed to destroy your opponents, survival of the FITTEST.

 

True story brah.

 

This is the SAME system and reasoning Ashes of Creation is trying to create.  In addition, since that is the case, stiffling, hindering, or supressing opponents by ANY means is intended game play.  If you can lock them out of an area, disrupt their life skills, etc you are following the original design AND INTENT of the game.

 

Pearl Abyss can't even figure out their own game intent is actually in conflict with their own TOS because what they think they want is so highly toxic it's unplayable for many players.  And that then conflicts with the TOS which has an objective of making money and thus not driving away customers.  Thus Pearl Abyss has a conflict of interest with itself.

Why is under your profile picture an empty void of nothingness?

Last Edit : Apr 2, 2021, 02:01 (UTC)
# 218
On: Apr 2, 2021, 01:19 (UTC), Written by PeaceInChaos

Why is under your profile picture an empty void of nothingness?

 

What exactly did you find wrong with what he said???

Last Edit : Apr 2, 2021, 02:45 (UTC)
# 219
On: Apr 2, 2021, 02:01 (UTC), Written by FearlessMe

 

What exactly did you find wrong with what he said???

One question at a time.

 

This lover of yours / user makes many statements regarding the game, it's mechanics, it's intentions, etc., asserting personal opinion / speculation as truth, often devoid of evidence / proper reasoning, often depicting these things in a negative, logically fallacious manner -- all while using a NON-LINKED, UNVERIFIABLE froum account.  Why hide like this?

 

February 24th, 2021 marks the day of PA's termination of contract with Kakao Games.  That is 35 days ago.  461 posts divided by 35 = 13.171.  That is just over 13 posts a day, everyday, since the inception of this Forum.

 

Considering the sheer amount of sh**-talk of the game, the slander of verifiable users, the amount of simply BAD information (like referencing a 3+ year old Cooking guide to explain how P2W cooking is), the absolute LACK of tangible, verifiable evidence that this user even has a game account to begin with.

 

461 posts in 35 days = 13+ posts a day, everyday.  Non-verifiable account.  What's the word again....? Oh yeah....

 

SUS

 

So in simple terms to answer your question:  Everything.

Last Edit : Apr 2, 2021, 05:06 (UTC)
# 220
On: Apr 2, 2021, 02:42 (UTC), Written by PeaceInChaos

One question at a time.

 

This lover of yours / user makes many statements regarding the game, it's mechanics, it's intentions, etc., asserting personal opinion / speculation as truth, often devoid of evidence / proper reasoning, often depicting these things in a negative, logically fallacious manner -- all while using a NON-LINKED, UNVERIFIABLE froum account.  Why hide like this?

 

February 24th, 2021 marks the day of PA's termination of contract with Kakao Games.  That is 35 days ago.  461 posts divided by 35 = 13.171.  That is just over 13 posts a day, everyday, since the inception of this Forum.

 

Considering the sheer amount of sh**-talk of the game, the slander of verifiable users, the amount of simply BAD information (like referencing a 3+ year old Cooking guide to explain how P2W cooking is), the absolute LACK of tangible, verifiable evidence that this user even has a game account to begin with.

 

461 posts in 35 days = 13+ posts a day, everyday.  Non-verifiable account.  What's the word again....? Oh yeah....

 

SUS

 

So in simple terms to answer your question:  Everything.

 

Ok first off drop the toxic approach to my harmless question. Second, he is not my lover. You listed abunch things. But still have not yet broke down where he is wrong. 

 

Far is the unlinked forum account. Maybe he wants to voice his opinions without consistently getting harassed in game by some toxic kids. I personally don't blame him. Hell if I cared half as much as he does, I wouldn't use my main on the forums.

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