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# 231
On: Apr 2, 2021, 05:06 (UTC), Written by FearlessMe

 

Ok first off drop the toxic approach to my harmless question. Second, he is not my lover. You listed abunch things. But still have not yet broke down where he is wrong. 

 

Far is the unlinked forum account. Maybe he wants to voice his opinions without consistently getting harassed in game by some toxic kids. I personally don't blame him. Hell if I cared half as much as he does, I wouldn't use my main on the forums.

You asked what I found wrong with his post, and I told you - Everything.  Count pretty much every other post VORTEXII writes too.  IDC what his intentions are --- He's LITEARLLY saying intentions don't matter a few posts above this one.  Different topic., but what --- intent don't matter, but when it applies to him it does??

 

Toxic attitude or not, the two of you have been some of the most negatively charged, conspiracy spinning, insult spewing, controvery breathing, nincompoops since the old Kakao forum.  People gripe a lot and that's 100% fine, but to the degree of NEGATIVITY that you two salt shakers display, paints a clear picture of YOUR intentions here -- Slander BDO.

 

My guess is you guys have enormous egos.  BDO is a tough game, I get it.  Progress is long and arduous and PK-ers can get in the way of that.  You guys simply CANNOT progress at a respectable rate in this game without excessive P2W, or get your asses handed to you on such a frequent basis, that your ego isn't stroked and coddled as much as it is in Western MMO's, where the game sets you on a path and you just follow it, like WoW of GW2.  Or have a plethora of "fair" or "non-gear-gapped" stuff.  It's fine if you like it, but please do us all a favor and play those games and go to those forums.  IDK about ESO.  ESO looks like crap, that's all I know about that game.  BDO 'aint perfect, but IMO, still BEST MMORPG in the market today and it's only going to get better.  Haso is gonna be SIIIICK, trust.

 

So yeah, you can't take being talked to in the same way you talk to others, yet dish it out, not only to me, but to others users too.  How about you guys either stop your negative-slader-esque escapade or GTFO?  Sounds good to me.

Last Edit : Apr 2, 2021, 19:12 (UTC)
# 232
On: Apr 1, 2021, 21:14 (UTC), Written by Retteo

The intent is ultimately meaningless.  If someone wants to flex or go around pking because they enjoy it, then the intent doesn't matter at all.  Remember it's a PVP game?

 

In fact according to Pearl Abyss you are supposed to SUPRESS your opponents and destroy their ability to progress in the game.  This is done as part of the COMPEITITVE game environement where stiffling your opponents is INTENDED.

 

That's WHY you could DESTROY TRADE ITEMS from other adventures.  You where SUPPOSED to view them as your ENEMY/OPPONENT and make them suffer loses so they would not gain ground and over power YOU.

 

You are supposed to destroy your opponents, survival of the FITTEST.

 

True story brah.

 

This is the SAME system and reasoning Ashes of Creation is trying to create.  In addition, since that is the case, stiffling, hindering, or supressing opponents by ANY means is intended game play.  If you can lock them out of an area, disrupt their life skills, etc you are following the original design AND INTENT of the game.

 

Pearl Abyss can't even figure out their own game intent is actually in conflict with their own TOS because what they think they want is so highly toxic it's unplayable for many players.  And that then conflicts with the TOS which has an objective of making money and thus not driving away customers.  Thus Pearl Abyss has a conflict of interest with itself.

 

None of this is true, your opinion is based entirely around toxic behavior commonly found in western players. This type of behavior is relatively uncommon in KR. Which is why the system is the designed the way it is.

Last Edit : Apr 2, 2021, 19:37 (UTC)
# 233
On: Apr 2, 2021, 18:48 (UTC), Written by PeaceInChaos

You asked what I found wrong with his post, and I told you - Everything.  Count pretty much every other post VORTEXII writes too.  IDC what his intentions are --- He's LITEARLLY saying intentions don't matter a few posts above this one.  Different topic., but what --- intent don't matter, but when it applies to him it does??

 

Toxic attitude or not, the two of you have been some of the most negatively charged, conspiracy spinning, insult spewing, controvery breathing, nincompoops since the old Kakao forum.  People gripe a lot and that's 100% fine, but to the degree of NEGATIVITY that you two salt shakers display, paints a clear picture of YOUR intentions here -- Slander BDO.

 

My guess is you guys have enormous egos.  BDO is a tough game, I get it.  Progress is long and arduous and PK-ers can get in the way of that.  You guys simply CANNOT progress at a respectable rate in this game without excessive P2W, or get your asses handed to you on such a frequent basis, that your ego isn't stroked and coddled as much as it is in Western MMO's, where the game sets you on a path and you just follow it, like WoW of GW2.  Or have a plethora of "fair" or "non-gear-gapped" stuff.  It's fine if you like it, but please do us all a favor and play those games and go to those forums.  IDK about ESO.  ESO looks like crap, that's all I know about that game.  BDO 'aint perfect, but IMO, still BEST MMORPG in the market today and it's only going to get better.  Haso is gonna be SIIIICK, trust.

 

So yeah, you can't take being talked to in the same way you talk to others, yet dish it out, not only to me, but to others users too.  How about you guys either stop your negative-slader-esque escapade or GTFO?  Sounds good to me.

I'll capture a great point here since no one will catch it.

"the degree of NEGATIVITY that you two salt shakers display, paints a clear picture of YOUR intentions here -- Slander BDO"

 

PeaceInChaos feels the accurate description of the game's functionality and design is "Slandering BDO".  He is also in complete denial of how the systems work and why they where designed.  It's no secret, it's advertised and in the very functionality of the game.

 

PeaceInChaos isn't willing to cope with the reality of the game.  Look at the trade system.  All these people supporting PVP like to go back to the original foundation.  So lets do exactly that.

 

The trade system was designed to be dangerous.  From NPC and other players.  Other players could DESTROY YOUR GOODS.  Now lets THINK about this.  I know it's not for everyone.  Some of these people on the forums despise thinking, but lets THINK about it.

 

WHY would Pearl Abyss design a system in which you CAN and are ENCOURAGED to DESTROY others revenue?

I'll take what is Competition for $1,000 Alex!!!!!

 

That's right!!!! Now PeaceInChaos can't handle this.  Show me the evidence!!!! FAKE NEWS!!!!! Where does it say that?

 

It said that in their PROMOTION.  It said that in the very design and FABRIC OF THE GAME.  It says that in the MECHANICS OF THE GAME.  ALL FACTS.

 

It's the SAME thing as what Ashes of Creation is pushing.  They are literally trying to do the SAME thing.  They WANT the controversy.  They WANT players to hinder each other.  They WANT players to stiffle the progression of others.

 

IT'S A GAME ABOUT PVP

 

Shutting down your opponents progression.  Striving to be on top, by crushing your opponents.

#GET REKT NEWBS

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Last Edit : Apr 2, 2021, 19:41 (UTC)
# 234
On: Apr 2, 2021, 10:50 (UTC), Written by Gooyoung

Tell me, where do u grind and what is the char level you use to grind there

 

Suddenly not such smart of a solution is it

You would then grind lifeskills.

 

I got my IRL friend into BDO, who is a true boomer (dude's like 70+ years old) plays BDO with pretty much all level 49's.  Does a lot of lifeskills, cooks, trains horses, does fishing in the great ocean, explores around, and stuff like that and enjoys his time in BDO.  Everyone's got diffrent intersts, though, but I think it's cool that BDO is sandboxy enough to cater to many different playstyles.

 

IDK, at least right now, it seems, when it comes to things related to combat in the open world, PA wants to maintain the "forced" PVP aspect of it.

Last Edit : Apr 2, 2021, 19:52 (UTC)
# 235
On: Apr 2, 2021, 19:12 (UTC), Written by Vanraven

 

None of this is true, your opinion is based entirely around toxic behavior commonly found in western players. This type of behavior is relatively uncommon in KR. Which is why the system is the designed the way it is.

You need to up your game a bit.  Here is a homework assignment for you.  Learn the following terms

Fact

Objective

Opinion

Imply

Infer

 

I'll give you some helpful examples

It's a Fact that even today you can destory others trade goods.

It's a Fact that the amount of trade goods destroyed was reduced

 

Now for your second assignment.  You develop a plausable reason of WHY you can destroy someone else's trade goods and what PURPOSE that would serve.

#ONLINE LEARNING

 

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Last Edit : Apr 2, 2021, 20:01 (UTC)
# 237
On: Apr 2, 2021, 19:52 (UTC), Written by Retteo

You need to up your game a bit.  Here is a homework assignment for you.  Learn the following terms

Fact

Objective

Opinion

Imply

Infer

 

I'll give you some helpful examples

It's a Fact that even today you can destory others trade goods.

It's a Fact that the amount of trade goods destroyed was reduced

 

Now for your second assignment.  You develop a plausable reason of WHY you can destroy someone else's trade goods and what PURPOSE that would serve.

#ONLINE LEARNING

 

Last Edit : Apr 2, 2021, 21:30 (UTC)
# 238
On: Apr 2, 2021, 19:37 (UTC), Written by Retteo

I'll capture a great point here since no one will catch it.

"the degree of NEGATIVITY that you two salt shakers display, paints a clear picture of YOUR intentions here -- Slander BDO"

 

PeaceInChaos feels the accurate description of the game's functionality and design is "Slandering BDO".  He is also in complete denial of how the systems work and why they where designed.  It's no secret, it's advertised and in the very functionality of the game.

 

PeaceInChaos isn't willing to cope with the reality of the game.  Look at the trade system.  All these people supporting PVP like to go back to the original foundation.  So lets do exactly that.

 

The trade system was designed to be dangerous.  From NPC and other players.  Other players could DESTROY YOUR GOODS.  Now lets THINK about this.  I know it's not for everyone.  Some of these people on the forums despise thinking, but lets THINK about it.

 

WHY would Pearl Abyss design a system in which you CAN and are ENCOURAGED to DESTROY others revenue?

I'll take what is Competition for $1,000 Alex!!!!!

 

That's right!!!! Now PeaceInChaos can't handle this.  Show me the evidence!!!! FAKE NEWS!!!!! Where does it say that?

 

It said that in their PROMOTION.  It said that in the very design and FABRIC OF THE GAME.  It says that in the MECHANICS OF THE GAME.  ALL FACTS.

 

It's the SAME thing as what Ashes of Creation is pushing.  They are literally trying to do the SAME thing.  They WANT the controversy.  They WANT players to hinder each other.  They WANT players to stiffle the progression of others.

 

IT'S A GAME ABOUT PVP

 

Shutting down your opponents progression.  Striving to be on top, by crushing your opponents.

#GET REKT NEWBS

Are combat sports toxic? Think about it.

 

Rekt? Lol. Your reasoning relies completely on the idea that this confrontation is inherently toxic, so it crumbles alone. 

On the other side, we can begin to consider that every answer you make is inherently wrong. Strangely, it works. 

Last Edit : Apr 2, 2021, 22:09 (UTC)
# 239
On: Apr 2, 2021, 21:30 (UTC), Written by Sadalsuud

Are combat sports toxic? Think about it.

 

Rekt? Lol. Your reasoning relies completely on the idea that this confrontation is inherently toxic, so it crumbles alone. 

On the other side, we can begin to consider that every answer you make is inherently wrong. Strangely, it works. 

Lets deal with your reading comprehension issue first:

 

I'll capture a great point here since no one will catch it.

"the degree of NEGATIVITY that you two salt shakers display, paints a clear picture of YOUR intentions here -- Slander BDO"

 

Many of the posts simply explain how the system function.  People like PeaceInChaos find this to be "Slandering BDO" because they see the description as harsh and slandering.  Meanwhile, it's a simple analysis of the system.

 

So what PeaceInChaos is actually saying, is that he finds Pearl Abyss's systems and design to be horrendious, slanderous, and toxic.

 

The concept that you are stiffling your opponents progression is merely a concept used in the game.  It's really more of just a fact of the way the system works.  In fact it's the only reason for the system.

 

Killing another player to destroy their trade goods is the foundation of the original game.  However, that's also because Pearl Abyss is incompetent and lacking knowledge.  They had to be beaten down enough to change their game rules and start implementing more friendly systems because their player base was diminishing.

 

Pearl Abyss was essentially forced to remove exp loss upon PK.  Because THAT DESIGN IS A FAILURE.  And we also know it's a failure because that is the very REASON it was REMOVED.

 

It was about as much of a failure as these forums ;)

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Last Edit : Apr 2, 2021, 22:52 (UTC)
# 240
On: Apr 2, 2021, 22:09 (UTC), Written by Retteo

Lets deal with your reading comprehension issue first:

 

I'll capture a great point here since no one will catch it.

"the degree of NEGATIVITY that you two salt shakers display, paints a clear picture of YOUR intentions here -- Slander BDO"

 

Many of the posts simply explain how the system function.  People like PeaceInChaos find this to be "Slandering BDO" because they see the description as harsh and slandering.  Meanwhile, it's a simple analysis of the system.

 

So what PeaceInChaos is actually saying, is that he finds Pearl Abyss's systems and design to be horrendious, slanderous, and toxic.

 

The concept that you are stiffling your opponents progression is merely a concept used in the game.  It's really more of just a fact of the way the system works.  In fact it's the only reason for the system.

 

Killing another player to destroy their trade goods is the foundation of the original game.  However, that's also because Pearl Abyss is incompetent and lacking knowledge.  They had to be beaten down enough to change their game rules and start implementing more friendly systems because their player base was diminishing.

 

Pearl Abyss was essentially forced to remove exp loss upon PK.  Because THAT DESIGN IS A FAILURE.  And we also know it's a failure because that is the very REASON it was REMOVED.

 

It was about as much of a failure as these forums ;)

Sorry, I forgot who I was talking to.

 

Are combat sports toxic? Think about it.

 

Rekt? Lol. Your reasoning relies completely on the idea that this confrontation is inherently toxic, so it crumbles alone. 

On the other side, we can begin to consider that every answer you make is inherently wrong. Strangely, it works.

 

I can also add that tweaking a non-FFA pvpve system is precisely what one could expect, unless this one is clearly wrong and have irrational ideas about what this game is but is still trying to define the game through them. 

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