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Please DO NOT MAKE vendor crons 3m. EU's market will die very quickly!
Aug 8, 2023, 10:33 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Sep 26, 2023, 06:38 (UTC)
# 21
On: Aug 12, 2023, 12:17 (UTC), Written by ReconKangas

I have said this across several threads you guys are like a bunch of woman In a sowing circle.

#1 As stated in other threads KR BDO is NOT NA/EU. KR has and always will be treated as a seperate or individual game.

Reason: KR BDO was published end of 2014 ... NA/EU published middle of 2016 almost 2 years later. Severs are older so is economy.(reason why we never got TIER 2 $$ update on outfits)

KR also has a MUCH DIFFERENT Social economic circle. Unlike the US OR EU... South Korea literally fits in my home state of michigan everyone lives much closer together, BDO in KR is generally played in computer Cafés or PC Bang. They play locally with friends and guild mates.

#2 local laws in KR also govern spending, game play for minors or those in school or college. Amount of time you can play per day (THIS IS A BIG ONE AMOUNT OF TIME PER DAY) if you have bad grades or fail classes your game account is linked to your phone number/personal information and your locked out of gaming all together. But you are limited in how much game play you can do in hours. This is Government laws not PA or BDO.

#3 Social norms as in above with education bad Behavior is very frowned upon and severely punished. Those banned in a game are also banned on ALL GAMES and if bad enough Behavior banned from the internet all together. Obviously there are work arounds but KR doesn't mess around with this. KR is not the USA it may be a form of democracy but don't let that fool you.

Stating the above as a whole changes like War Dec system, Karma system we may never see this was put in place specifically to deal with issues like a 60% increase in player base. All those that were banned were players taking off gear to force those to go red then puting gear on then killing them forcing them to lose gems (KARMA BOMBERS)

Last statement on this subject, it has been Years between last increase I.E. cron went from 1 mil per cron to 2 mil in ending of 2018 beginning of 2019 almost 5 years ago. And we are just now getting to the point of outfit price increase after a 2 year delay from KR 1st price update in 2021/22 on outfits.

So instead of simply freaking out becouse KR GOT IT OH NO LIFE IS COMING TO A END IN BDO.. Simply put your being a drama Queen.

With the massive updates and upgrades in grinding as well as silver per hour PA is making massive efforts in positioning every player to be more productive playing than using a Credit Card.

Promoting casino-like tactics in this game to progress is still a bad idea. Btw. This post is completely missing the point of the topic.

Now I am going to write something well known to anybody that played the game for at least a month or two:

Cron stones are used to protect your gear from downgrading (weapons and armor) or prevent accessory destruction. But accessories have the % chance to downgrade even with crons used.

Therefore this is a very close resemblance to gambling like in a real casino. By making the crons more expensive this indirectly sais "spend more money to make an X item to a certain enhance level." I know that crons can be bought from an NPC too. But tbh 3mil for a cron stone is just too much to spend. Melting outfits? Heck no! Feels like wasting money. And gambling is usually prone to making an addiction in a bad sense. What the devs did here with the crons is promoting gambling addiction indirectly to progress. Progression is now even harder.

From my perspective those money can go elsewhere for something far more useful, which I can consume.

Edit: Several posters here need to ask themselves, if they actually promote robbery here with their own posts...

Last Edit : Sep 27, 2023, 01:32 (UTC)
# 22
Écrit le : 19 sept. 2023, 05:48 (UTC), par : Jeys

I have full pen blackstars. I don't care really. 

Let be honest 1 hour is 1B+/ hour.  I don't know the problem here.

New player Tax? NO: New players now make a lot more money/hour than Veterans when they were trying V blackstar.

I really would like people on this forum stop saying everyone get 1bil/hour all the time.... this is not true ... not all the time and only on a few spots...

Last Edit : Sep 27, 2023, 01:32 (UTC)
# 23
Écrit le : 19 sept. 2023, 05:48 (UTC), par : Jeys

I have full pen blackstars. I don't care really. 

Let be honest 1 hour is 1B+/ hour.  I don't know the problem here.

New player Tax? NO: New players now make a lot more money/hour than Veterans when they were trying V blackstar.

I really would like people on this forum stop saying everyone get 1bil/hour all the time.... this is not true ... not all the time and only on a few spots...

Last Edit : Sep 27, 2023, 05:58 (UTC)
# 24

Day 7th CM still not dead, something went wrong ?

Last Edit : Sep 27, 2023, 12:58 (UTC)
# 25

The sky was never going to fall as a result of the change - but that doesn't mean it was a good change.

Nobody was cronning pen Blackstars to sell en masse even before the change, because if they did, they'd go broke, as it lost money even before the cron change.

The vast majority of pen Blackstars entering the market are from 'free' hammer taps; or hardcore people raw tapping to build pen FG stacks; there's always some 'random noise' of people gambling, but if people do this, it tends to be accessories rather than pen Blackstar. So, making crons for Pen BS more expensive only really affects people trying to self-enhance, and since buying on the market will remain viable and cheaper, the simple advice there is don't self-enhance. If saving 120b seems too painful, you have the option of picking up a duo or tet godr in the meantime (just don't tap it yourself).

I raise Pen BS since it's the only cron-related item that you'd categorise as having a big impact on gameplay, and it's kinda 'the' midgame upgrade people go for.

By comparison, wearing tet FG instead of duo FG isn't going to decide the vast majority of fights; nor is wearing pen debos vs pen 'normal' accuracy or AP accessories (in fact, there's a very good argument 6xaccuracy accs beats using debos for a glass cannon build). Market prices on EU for 340m base accs (disto,dawn,omi,etc.) at tet and pen have never really been based on vendor cron cost, but rawtap cost.  Tet FG and Pen Debos do indeed take a ton of crons - inevitably mostly vendor ones on EU - but by the point you're going for them, you're so far up the gear curve the gameplay impact of having them vs not having them is minimal.

It still sucks as a change, because of the way they implemented it as a huge shift in value in one swoop meaning from one week to the next enhancing a pen debo went from around 300b average to 450b. It would be better if they adjusted crons by minor, frequent, predictable increments (or not at all, I'd be fine with that), if they won't listen to players otherwise and have decided they *have* to increase them over time to keep their P2W model alive. The way they did it is like a huge cut-off date punishing people by hundreds of billions (if not trillions) for what they've yet to enhance in the space of 24 hours.

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