When did I ever say I want elixirs to be permanent?
I was just demonstrating how pointless it is to compare the silver price in relation to hidden ap gains.

Comparing best crystals to best gear upgrades? I'm sorry but in my opinion you're expected to have best crystals way sooner than when you're expected to have Pen blackstar.
You're deciding that these two things are comparable when they are nothing alike and they can't be compared.

Crystals not being permanent by design is an outdated concept for the current prices and state of the game, where the punishment for dying is so harsh that it scares people away from fully experiencing the game.

And that's excluding things that can make you die outside of your control.

Why does there need to be that kind of difference between crystals and lighstones?

Artifacts/lightstones and crystals have different purposes.

Are accessories and artifacts the same thing just because they are jewelry that provide stats and don't break on death? No they aren't.

This is just a silly thing to be worried about.

What in the current  "state of the game" make crystals breaking an outdated concept?

Also, how does not having best 10b crystal preset with average crystal cost of 1b and instead using 600m preset with average crystal cost of 50m and stat difference of around 20 hidden ap and 20 accuracy between the two stops you "experiencing the game"?

The fact that your crystal set isn't made of black magic crystals at 5 mil each with the most expensive being elkars at 150 mils and jin viper at 300 mils like it was before.

Now a death with crystal loss costs you on average way more than spots have been buffed to make up for.

The fact that you can lose 1 billion or even more (corresponding to AT LEAST one hour of the average player time) for a SINGLE death is just dumb.

I don't know what crystals you're talking about: accuracy crystals are usually very cheap and a crypt grinding setup costed less than a bil before the new elkars came out.

Crystals aren't only hidden ap: it's back attack damage, attack/casting speed, hp, stamina (and accuracy on top of that).

You can't just replace everything with ancient flame powers...

I don't understand why limiting the players from achieving and using best in slot gear (because it can't be lost in seconds for a misplay, relaxation, real life issue or disconnection) is such a cool concept to you.

No one would be penalized. There are no people that rely on the crystal market for their income.

When crystals hit the 800-1 billion+ mark and pre-order time is measured in weeks, the idea of crystals breaking becomes obsolete. I have previously pointed out the numerous flaws in your argument, and ignoring them does not make them any less valid. With a single PEN costing over 160 billion, not being able to use the Girin crystal for an additional 10% drop chance is a significant setback.

For casual players, this could add weeks or months to an already lengthy four+ month endeavor for 1 piece out of 13. This is not counting the length of time it takes even to reach the point where you can grind Orcs+.

Your elitist attitude, which is prevalent among the top 1% who wish to keep the best grinding spots to themselves, is once again on display. Making these crystals permanent would open up these spots to more people and augment lower-geared players to reach higher-geared areas. If you need help comprehending this concept, that is your problem. The rest of us understand it perfectly.

Hey PA, Just grinded an hour of dehkia thornwood, nice hour to be honest then at the 56th minute, I died.

-1 rebellious crystal = -1.7bil,

Welp, that hour and part of the next hour is wasted. Its not fun anymore. Back to world of warcraft at this rate.

Lost crystals because of dc/lag a few times. They got rid of it on consoles, time to do it here

Still waiting for pve to be interesting and engaging again. It's no fun to minmax and wipe out easy spots for money when I could pit myself against an actual challenge while still progressing.

I will echo all the similar comments here, crystal protection/non breakage is needed.
That single event was one of the most stress-free enjoyable times I had grinding in this game - ever. 

Options include;
- Remove breakage completely
- Give them durability/ make them repairable
- Create a buff to buy at the tent/church that protects them (another money sink)

There are options. Please save us all billions LOL

I would like to tell that i took the L and tried to explore the Trash forest  that made people stare into the abyss and loose their souls, seems like i am a blessed( or cursed) ash forest enjoyer, but the one time i lagged i lost a bonghwang's tear , i assure you it wouldve been a girin if i had one, and my second death was after i blinked to get a fast rebellious steal. i was about to suggest this out of pure frustration, the game is very inconsistent with desyncs so much that crystall loss makes no sense, or at least set a silver threshold for crystals that breake ( sub 400m breakable) more unbreakable, this is the bare minimum

Great Idea!

Almost everything we equip is repairable, excluding a few things, such as some Alchemy Stones, Artifacts and Lightstones.  I may have missed something, but there aren't many.  Giving Durability to Crystals and making them repairable is definitely a great idea and recommended path for PA to take.

I myself never took part in the event, as I knew the fate that awaited me at the end of it.