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Aug 12, 2023, 19:56 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Aug 12, 2023, 19:56 (UTC)
# 1

im a new player to this game (that its slowly starting to piss me off) i did quests and some farm till lvl 60 and i got the Atoraxxion quest line, so far so good, i did 1st dungeon easy (but i found out some stupid game mechanics, like if u stay to mutch in dungeon will kick u out even if ur in a middle of a cutscene and if u enter back in dungeon u have to unlock all doors again and u have to do some puzzles again and 2nt time u dont have the skip option... cool), did the 2nd it was ok but by the 3rd dungeon monsters took way longer to kill but its fine, more time to see mechanics, or so i thought, because by the time i got to the penultimate boss (the 2 deers) the blue deer out heals my dmg, but afther 6-8 min of turbo pressing my buttons i managed to kill him and here comes the thing that pissed me off, the last boss i get him to the last phase just to oneshot me...

and like any normal dude i start asking in group chat... got ignored...

so i start to google it if u can do it in season gear and how the mechanics work and afther 3 guides and 3 video, they all contradict each other, im so mad that i cant finde concrete info...

one guide tell me to kill trees not to get whiped, the other guide tells me to stay in the laser near ball not to get whiped and in

all de videos they outgear the boss and they skip the last phase mechanics

im so mad and i dont know what to belive any more, waht im doing wrong?,all guide contradict each other and they say u can easly do it in season gear ...

im full pen tuvala btw

Last Edit : Aug 12, 2023, 22:45 (UTC)
# 2

By the time dungeons released, I had better gear than PEN Tuvala for sure (I've tried Tuvala gear on season as well with a new character), here's my experience.

1st and 2nd dungeon on season is mad easy, Pen Tuvala is more than enough. 3rd dungeon my group didn't rly finish cause, minibosses were complete damage sponges, so it was just not worth the time.

After that, here are the gear scores I'd go with, and I've done plenty of dungeon runs, including some carries (way back when there were no medkits at final bosses, and there was no solo mode)

Regular mode, I'd almost certainly say, 650 GS for 1st and 2nd, 680-700 GS for the 3rd one. (these are GS so you can do the dungeons comfortably, you can definitely do it below this but, don't expect a good time unless with a good group)

Elvia mode (hard mode), 680-700 GS 1st and 2nd (but I'd recommend soft cap 401 DP for 2nd one, due to AoEs on final boss), and 720+ GS 3rd one. 

The rest is mechanics, imo, the 3rd dungeon is most definitely the hardest one mechanically and in terms of time restraints during final bosses. Hardest part is the 2nd phase, specially the part with invisible pillars you gotta push minions into to make them blow up with a strict time limit, but that's just PA being PA, throwing a crap mechanic into an otherwise great fight.

In dungeons, only final boss arena is timed, as it is instanced, it's 2 hours (or was it 3?) that you have, before it resets, and you have to rerun the dungeon.

Last Edit : Aug 13, 2023, 07:35 (UTC)
# 3
On: Aug 12, 2023, 19:56 (UTC), Written by dyabolyk

im a new player to this game (that its slowly starting to piss me off) i did quests and some farm till lvl 60 and i got the Atoraxxion quest line, so far so good, i did 1st dungeon easy (but i found out some stupid game mechanics, like if u stay to mutch in dungeon will kick u out even if ur in a middle of a cutscene and if u enter back in dungeon u have to unlock all doors again and u have to do some puzzles again and 2nt time u dont have the skip option... cool), did the 2nd it was ok but by the 3rd dungeon monsters took way longer to kill but its fine, more time to see mechanics, or so i thought, because by the time i got to the penultimate boss (the 2 deers) the blue deer out heals my dmg, but afther 6-8 min of turbo pressing my buttons i managed to kill him and here comes the thing that pissed me off, the last boss i get him to the last phase just to oneshot me...

and like any normal dude i start asking in group chat... got ignored...

so i start to google it if u can do it in season gear and how the mechanics work and afther 3 guides and 3 video, they all contradict each other, im so mad that i cant finde concrete info...

one guide tell me to kill trees not to get whiped, the other guide tells me to stay in the laser near ball not to get whiped and in

all de videos they outgear the boss and they skip the last phase mechanics

im so mad and i dont know what to belive any more, waht im doing wrong?,all guide contradict each other and they say u can easly do it in season gear ...

im full pen tuvala btw

Doing dungeons  via party matching is very bad idea. If you new and don't know mechanics best what you can hope to do its try to get in as backpack for ppl who need 5th and use voice chat to briefly explain you what to do. Season dungeon is super easy if you already master mechanics and teamplay (important part is teamplay). Season dungeon as it stand not very popular with expirience players - in short rewards bad.

As for guides - blame youtube for this, removal of dislike button sparked creation of  very bad "guide" videos that straigh up misslead you.

Last Edit : Aug 13, 2023, 11:15 (UTC)
# 4

You probably played other mmos and think dungeons are also big part for this game.

Truth is that nobody who is mid/high end gear bothers dungeon in this game. It's just some ancient patch everyone forgot about. Reward/time investment not worth it.

For pve it's about grinding or do ranked bosses. 

Last Edit : Aug 21, 2023, 13:04 (UTC)
# 5
On: Aug 13, 2023, 11:14 (UTC), Written by Dissection

You probably played other mmos and think dungeons are also big part for this game.

Truth is that nobody who is mid/high end gear bothers dungeon in this game. It's just some ancient patch everyone forgot about. Reward/time investment not worth it.

For pve it's about grinding or do ranked bosses. 

if you're good a run of the 3 dungeons barely takes you more than 1h, nets you: 3 accessories, 300m cash, 60~90 caphras, and you can exchange tokens for 300+ meme frag (or +50 valks).

You're right high end player don't bother cause it's not a bother it's one of the most profitable places in the game (depending on rng of course) and you can do this twice a week (with slightly diminished returns on your second run yes) 

On: Aug 12, 2023, 22:44 (UTC), Written by HatBOI

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After that, here are the gear scores I'd go with, and I've done plenty of dungeon runs, including some carries (way back when there were no medkits at final bosses, and there was no solo mode)

Regular mode, I'd almost certainly say, 650 GS for 1st and 2nd, 680-700 GS for the 3rd one. (these are GS so you can do the dungeons comfortably, you can definitely do it below this but, don't expect a good time unless with a good group)

Elvia mode (hard mode), 680-700 GS 1st and 2nd (but I'd recommend soft cap 401 DP for 2nd one, due to AoEs on final boss), and 720+ GS 3rd one. 

The rest is mechanics, imo, the 3rd dungeon is most definitely the hardest one mechanically and in terms of time restraints during final bosses. Hardest part is the 2nd phase, specially the part with invisible pillars you gotta push minions into to make them blow up with a strict time limit, but that's just PA being PA, throwing a crap mechanic into an otherwise great fight.

In dungeons, only final boss arena is timed, as it is instanced, it's 2 hours (or was it 3?) that you have, before it resets, and you have to rerun the dungeon.

you can pass Season Dungeon with a full team, Tri Tuvala at minimum (you won't disrespect the boss like you would in pen but it's doable), Normal can be done with a team full Pen Tuvala, 
you have 4hours for the boss now (used to be 2 in the begining if I recall correctly) with the ceiling starting to fall at 2.

On: Aug 12, 2023, 19:56 (UTC), Written by dyabolyk

im a new player to this game (that its slowly starting to piss me off) i did quests and some farm till lvl 60 and i got the Atoraxxion quest line, so far so good, i did 1st dungeon easy (but i found out some stupid game mechanics, like if u stay to mutch in dungeon will kick u out even if ur in a middle of a cutscene and if u enter back in dungeon u have to unlock all doors again and u have to do some puzzles again and 2nt time u dont have the skip option... cool), did the 2nd it was ok but by the 3rd dungeon monsters took way longer to kill but its fine, more time to see mechanics, or so i thought, because by the time i got to the penultimate boss (the 2 deers) the blue deer out heals my dmg, but afther 6-8 min of turbo pressing my buttons i managed to kill him and here comes the thing that pissed me off, the last boss i get him to the last phase just to oneshot me...

im so mad and i dont know what to belive any more, waht im doing wrong?,all guide contradict each other and they say u can easly do it in season gear ...

im full pen tuvala btw

could write a guide but best thing to do would be to either do it with your guild, or look up the Atto Discord (they have party finders and guide for the dungeons ) 

Last Edit : Aug 22, 2023, 22:54 (UTC)
# 6
On: Aug 13, 2023, 11:14 (UTC), Written by Dissection

You probably played other mmos and think dungeons are also big part for this game.

Truth is that nobody who is mid/high end gear bothers dungeon in this game. It's just some ancient patch everyone forgot about. Reward/time investment not worth it.

For pve it's about grinding or do ranked bosses. 

It's a joke, isn't it? All three dungeons will take about 1h - 1h15min if you know what to do. You'll get between 1bil and 5bil for all three of them, so it's one of the best sources of money/h in the game. Most really advanced players do it because they know it's a good source of money. It's fine if you don't like them, but don't mislead people.

For the author - blackdesertfoundry.com have very good guides and the best would be to find people for them in your guild. With people from LFG can be hard because other people can also be first timer like you.

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