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Do not rework GvGs in the way it was announced!
Sep 6, 2023, 17:38 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Sep 6, 2023, 18:36 (UTC)
# 11
On: Sep 6, 2023, 18:27 (UTC), Written by Myrodinn

I personally don't see a problem with it. It's literally no different than if a guild you dec on has protected players, if those protected players go into your rot, your still losing karma.

People making the excuse "I can only get 3 kills before I go red" well than swap to some burner gems and go -1mill on them and grind the karma back as you grind, I will legit be farming Elvia Rhutums and will go -1mill and just keep grinding they eventually leave.

Personally alot of the people complaining about this change are griefers themselves, they can't just Dec on a guild of lowbies and farm them now.

As someone who started this game as a lifeskiller and had dealt with an untold amount of greifers over 7 years and was below 600gs until 2021 I can tell you that people abuse the current PvP system to run people off of servers and the entire game.

I for one am looking forward to the change.

I don't see a problem with it either.  there are MANY pvp outlets in this game.  You can still flag.  You now need to accept the consequences of your behavior.  Just like irl.  I've had a 745 GS sorc permadecc my lifeskill guild for 10 months for no other reason than to harass me.  He will now have to pay a price.  Good.

Last Edit : Sep 6, 2023, 18:46 (UTC)
# 12

Out of touch and inept. Cant find any better discription words for the future changes.

Now people will just feed people to mobs. Well done PA, you just made harassment a main staple in the game. 

Additionally, if someone is harassing you, its called "Guild Protection"

Its a feature in the game. Use it.

Stop these changes and listen to your community.

Last Edit : Sep 6, 2023, 18:41 (UTC)
# 13
On: Sep 6, 2023, 18:36 (UTC), Written by Columba

I don't see a problem with it either.  there are MANY pvp outlets in this game.  You can still flag.  You now need to accept the consequences of your behavior.  Just like irl.  I've had a 745 GS sorc permadecc my lifeskill guild for 10 months for no other reason than to harass me.  He will now have to pay a price.  Good.

I see you chat pvp a lot, people typically don't come after someone for "no other reason than to harass me", also if your guild truly is a lifeskill guild then it cannot be decced on in the first place.

Last Edit : Sep 6, 2023, 18:41 (UTC)
# 14
On: Sep 6, 2023, 18:27 (UTC), Written by Myrodinn

I personally don't see a problem with it. It's literally no different than if a guild you dec on has protected players, if those protected players go into your rot, your still losing karma.

People making the excuse "I can only get 3 kills before I go red" well than swap to some burner gems and go -1mill on them and grind the karma back as you grind, I will legit be farming Elvia Rhutums and will go -1mill and just keep grinding they eventually leave.

Personally alot of the people complaining about this change are griefers themselves, they can't just Dec on a guild of lowbies and farm them now.

As someone who started this game as a lifeskiller and had dealt with an untold amount of greifers over 7 years and was below 600gs until 2021 I can tell you that people abuse the current PvP system to run people off of servers and the entire game.

I for one am looking forward to the change.

So you want me to lose money, crystals, etc have to go red to DEAL with griefers? That seems a bit backwards

Last Edit : Sep 6, 2023, 18:42 (UTC)
# 15
On: Sep 6, 2023, 18:41 (UTC), Written by PootyPoot

I see you chat pvp a lot, people typically don't come after someone for "no other reason than to harass me", also if your guild truly is a lifeskill guild then it cannot be decced on in the first place.

Yes, lifeskill guilds can get decced, lol.   We don't interfere with people's rotations, so why would we get decced?  lol

This was hidden by admin due to the reports it has received.
Last Edit : Sep 6, 2023, 18:42 (UTC)
# 17
On: Sep 6, 2023, 18:27 (UTC), Written by Myrodinn

I personally don't see a problem with it. It's literally no different than if a guild you dec on has protected players, if those protected players go into your rot, your still losing karma.

People making the excuse "I can only get 3 kills before I go red" well than swap to some burner gems and go -1mill on them and grind the karma back as you grind, I will legit be farming Elvia Rhutums and will go -1mill and just keep grinding they eventually leave.

Personally alot of the people complaining about this change are griefers themselves, they can't just Dec on a guild of lowbies and farm them now.

As someone who started this game as a lifeskiller and had dealt with an untold amount of greifers over 7 years and was below 600gs until 2021 I can tell you that people abuse the current PvP system to run people off of servers and the entire game.

I for one am looking forward to the change.

Shai player opinion tells me all i need to know.

Last Edit : Sep 6, 2023, 18:44 (UTC)
# 18
On: Sep 6, 2023, 18:36 (UTC), Written by Columba

I don't see a problem with it either.  there are MANY pvp outlets in this game.  You can still flag.  You now need to accept the consequences of your behavior.  Just like irl.  I've had a 745 GS sorc permadecc my lifeskill guild for 10 months for no other reason than to harass me.  He will now have to pay a price.  Good.

Have you ever faced a gathering bot near behr that will make sure you get away from that place by karmabombing you? It literally dies, spawns and runs to the exact same position every time flawlessly.  PAs heavy handed approach affects everyone even if you think this actually is going to help you. 

Last Edit : Sep 6, 2023, 18:47 (UTC)
# 19
On: Sep 6, 2023, 18:42 (UTC), Written by Columba

Yes, lifeskill guilds can get decced, lol.   We don't interfere with people's rotations, so why would we get decced?  lol

no. lifeskill guilds literally cannot be decced on. read how the guild dec system works.

there are requirements that needs to be met for a guild to be able to pvp, if your guild can be decced then it's not a lifeskill guild, it's a griefer guild masked under the name "lifeskill"

Last Edit : Sep 6, 2023, 18:47 (UTC)
# 20
On: Sep 6, 2023, 18:42 (UTC), Written by Columba

Yes, lifeskill guilds can get decced, lol.   We don't interfere with people's rotations, so why would we get decced?  lol

You cannot get decced unless you are participating in node wars or decced someone recently. 

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