This would literally kill the open-world PVP scene in NA. There is already a very messed up buffer for a guild having to wait 15min for a dec to go through to stop individuals from griefing grind spots and other open-world activities.

this change is trash plz stop

Why do PvP have ANY consequences in the first place? Its an open world game where players can "play how they want" but if you want to PvP you get punished, not rewarded. If PvP had several avenues of PvP that ALSO progressed their account i'd be in less arguement.

Nodewars & siege doesnt even pay for itself
RBF is like 50m/h
AoS (a seasonal gamemode with no rewards)
Open world - Dead

Nice PvP in the PVP game

In NA, there are currently around 100 cases of one-sided wars occurring daily, which corresponds to an annual average of around 37K cases.

How many of these guilds voiced concerns due to the way our war system worked?

Why is the goal to kill open world PVP and force people into "Solo instanced Grinding"???

This just seems extreme for an Open World MMORPG.

You guys have been making exceptional changes this year to plently of systems and we are greatful for them.

Don't make this one. It's garbage.

cant wait to run circles to run circles faster, GJ killing OW PVP PA once this goes through

what even is the point to push gainz now if most wars are capped, OW is gonna die and the only thing y'all got planned for pvpers is a trash 300v300 mode thats just gonna break the servers(once every 2 weeks lmao)

Most people don't consider karma bombing yourself an option. Flagging only works if the other person is willing to leave. More often than not they are just trying to get you negative to bring more people to blow up your gems

I have always been in active pvp guilds from day 1 of playing this game. In those guild we would have massive gvg where any random guild would role up, see pvp, all call and join the fight resulting in alot of 1 sided decs. It was some of the most fun I ever had in bdo but ofcourse that was before pa started bleeding open world pvp to death. If these changes are implemented the only open world pvp that will be happening will be griefer having free reign to screw with people. Pve'rs would be left with 3 options 

1. Flag up 

At which point you only have a few chances before you ultimately go red and loose anyway

2 swap servers 

Most popular rots are already taken so the likelyhood that you don't have to flag up and take that spot is low and defeats the purpose of swapping. At which point you are the griefer.....

3. Take the abuse 

I.e try and grind over them trying to grief you

No matter what path you take the victim will loose and the griefer wins........

Plz just implement the marny realm changes to decrease the competition and get rid of the 1 side dec changes. It will decrease the competition for grind spots without completely killing one of the last remaining avenues for open world pvp we have left.

Because it prevents mindless griefing. Additionally, pvp without risk is boring. A fight in which niether player risk anything is just a waste of time. There's a reason everybody argues Arsha isn't the solution. If you want to interrupt someone elses gameplay (and attempt to prevent them from "playing how they want") you are free to do so, but you should aslo accept the risk associated with that action. It's not a PvP game, it's a sandbox MMO.

Yeah they don't consider it an option because the appeal was never PvP for them. They aren't pvp players they're bullies who want to force other players to stop doing whatever it is they're doing.