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Do not rework GvGs in the way it was announced!
Sep 6, 2023, 17:38 (UTC)
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Sep 12, 2023, 15:14 (UTC)
# 291
On: Sep 12, 2023, 11:38 (UTC), Written by Bazartiz
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English: Well summarized, here's a screenshot of what awaits us in the coming days. Thanks to the developers!Korean: 잘 요약했습니다. 다가올 날들에 우리를 기다리는 것들을 스크린샷으로 보여드립니다. 개발자들에게 감사드립니다!
Anecdotal. I don't think that will be common. If it is, not a problem for me
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Sep 12, 2023, 15:19 (UTC)
# 292
On: Sep 12, 2023, 13:15 (UTC), Written by oubar
If the loss of crystals disappears, it will just kill the economy of the game, the duel allows you to decide between the player for a spot. If you refuse the duel you will end up dying by the mobs, or you will no longer be able to grind because reinforcements will arrive to empty the rotation.
Fine. Then bans will follow and many more people will waste their time. Good luck trying to feed me to mobs. No one has succeeded, but some will be recorded. Have a sunny day.
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Sep 12, 2023, 15:48 (UTC)
# 293
On: Sep 12, 2023, 15:14 (UTC), Written by Columba
Anecdotal. I don't think that will be common. If it is, not a problem for me
It's actually not anecdotal at all, After this released in korea there was mass bans because the koreans way of protesting was actively griefing as hard as they could.
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Sep 12, 2023, 16:23 (UTC)
# 294
On: Sep 12, 2023, 15:48 (UTC), Written by TwinkBDO
It's actually not anecdotal at all, After this released in korea there was mass bans because the koreans way of protesting was actively griefing as hard as they could.
Statistics and facts vs a single screenshot?
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Sep 12, 2023, 18:16 (UTC)
# 295
On: Sep 12, 2023, 16:23 (UTC), Written by Columba
Statistics and facts vs a single screenshot?
I am not even talking about the screenshots, Literally the week of this change being released in korea like 40+ permanant bans happened from people protesting the change. That is not anecdotal, that is a fact.
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Sep 12, 2023, 18:36 (UTC)
# 296
Guild protection exists
If a player is in a guild and gets dec'd for spot, and the GM cannot offer them the protection slot, it's a pisspoor guild and GM.
I run a guild that has never, ever been 'unwanted pvp'd' by a wardec, despite plenty of "perma decs" against us by guilds that dropped nodes + existing decs just to attempt to bully us.
Literally the only person that can be affected is the GM themselves and if you can't handle that you don't deserve to call yourself one lol.
So just a refresher since this thread is so long, on the current system you can:
Join a guild that is not-ready-for-war, making you immune to wardecs by most PvP guilds.
In this guild, if someone does dec you, you have 15 minutes from the public announcement the dec was sent, to decide if you want to 1. leave, because you don't want to fight and don't care
2. swap worlds, because you don't want to fight, and there are 3 servers you can swap to without even a cooldown
3. call for backup, and turn the tables on the person
4. or ask for guild protection, making the entire wardec null for its purpose to make you leave.
That's assuming even the other guild both
1. wants to send a dec, removing their OWN non-dec status
2. Can even dec you at all
So the only guilds that would suffer from these imaginary one sided bully decs are either sending decs themselves, refusing protection to their members, refusing to back up their members in a fight, or full of entitled people who are not willing to do any of those things, or even just play guildless, but still expect full privileges.
Or the GM is an absent father figure and can't put anyone on protection loool.
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Sep 12, 2023, 18:47 (UTC)
# 297
On: Sep 12, 2023, 18:16 (UTC), Written by TwinkBDO
I am not even talking about the screenshots, Literally the week of this change being released in korea like 40+ permanant bans happened from people protesting the change. That is not anecdotal, that is a fact.
Well they must have violated the TOS. 40 is nothing material
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Sep 12, 2023, 18:59 (UTC)
# 298
On: Sep 12, 2023, 13:15 (UTC), Written by oubar
If the loss of crystals disappears, it will just kill the economy of the game, the duel allows you to decide between the player for a spot. If you refuse the duel you will end up dying by the mobs, or you will no longer be able to grind because reinforcements will arrive to empty the rotation.
Soo... you just described how you like to grief people in the game? Feeding to mobs, grinding over someone when they refuse to give up their spot... This is a nice example of behavior that needs to be extinguished to make the game overall better.
This is like the Russian approach to their neighbors, if I may give it a political spin. Give up your land! You do not agree? We will bombard you. And it is your fault that we bombard you and kill your people - you should not provoke us by not agreeing to give up your land!
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Sep 12, 2023, 18:49 (UTC)
# 299
On: Sep 12, 2023, 18:36 (UTC), Written by DecemberSkies
Guild protection exists
If a player is in a guild and gets dec'd for spot, and the GM cannot offer them the protection slot, it's a pisspoor guild and GM.
I run a guild that has never, ever been 'unwanted pvp'd' by a wardec, despite plenty of "perma decs" against us by guilds that dropped nodes + existing decs just to attempt to bully us.
Literally the only person that can be affected is the GM themselves and if you can't handle that you don't deserve to call yourself one lol.
So just a refresher since this thread is so long, on the current system you can:
Join a guild that is not-ready-for-war, making you immune to wardecs by most PvP guilds.
In this guild, if someone does dec you, you have 15 minutes from the public announcement the dec was sent, to decide if you want to 1. leave, because you don't want to fight and don't care
2. swap worlds, because you don't want to fight, and there are 3 servers you can swap to without even a cooldown
3. call for backup, and turn the tables on the person
4. or ask for guild protection, making the entire wardec null for its purpose to make you leave.
That's assuming even the other guild both
1. wants to send a dec, removing their OWN non-dec status
2. Can even dec you at all
So the only guilds that would suffer from these imaginary one sided bully decs are either sending decs themselves, refusing protection to their members, refusing to back up their members in a fight, or full of entitled people who are not willing to do any of those things, or even just play guildless, but still expect full privileges.
Or the GM is an absent father figure and can't put anyone on protection loool.
None of the deccs on my guild are over spots. None have been over contested spots in the last 2 months. One is from a one man 745 GS who harasses me and done so for the last 10 months. The other is because "your recruiting messages are too gay!"
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Sep 12, 2023, 19:01 (UTC)
# 300
On: Sep 12, 2023, 15:48 (UTC), Written by TwinkBDO
It's actually not anecdotal at all, After this released in korea there was mass bans because the koreans way of protesting was actively griefing as hard as they could.
Well, it is fine to ban griefers, isnt it? People who resist the change are vocal that the change is going to make the griefers more powerful... yet the action they are going to take is... griefing? Uhh... ohh?
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