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Do not rework GvGs in the way it was announced!
Sep 6, 2023, 17:38 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Sep 6, 2023, 19:09 (UTC)
# 31

Any of you guys remember when BDO was considered a PvP game? 

Last Edit : Sep 6, 2023, 19:10 (UTC)
# 32
On: Sep 6, 2023, 19:07 (UTC), Written by Rasnake

The only way to be dec'd at that point is to be dec'd by another guild that has no decs at the same guild size or lower than your guild size. If PA has the tools to find out how many one-sided war decs are going on, they should be able to see who cycles their decs and drops them all to dec guilds like yours and prevent that from happening, rather than forcing a unilateral change onto the entire community. 

Honestly, if they could do that, then I would be against this change.  We are permadecced by a 745 gs, one person guild whose only purpose is to grief me.  He follows me across server channels.  We don't decc others, so I have no idea how he can keep deccing me.  Trust me, if they would have dealt with that, I wouldn't favor this change.  

So, lifeskill guilds CAN be decced if the guild doing the deccing has no one else decced?

Last Edit : Sep 6, 2023, 19:13 (UTC)
# 33

Griefers about to be up big
Crystals market about to be up big
Average player count about to be down bad

Last Edit : Sep 6, 2023, 19:24 (UTC)
# 34
On: Sep 6, 2023, 18:46 (UTC), Written by PootyPoot

no. lifeskill guilds literally cannot be decced on. read how the guild dec system works.

there are requirements that needs to be met for a guild to be able to pvp, if your guild can be decced then it's not a lifeskill guild, it's a griefer guild masked under the name "lifeskill"

This is just factually wrong. There are two types of guilds ones who are ready for war and ones who are not. Guilds who are ready for war cannot dec guilds who are not. That's the only restritction. A guild who is ready for war, and who also does not own a node, can drop all of thier active decs and immidiately become not ready for war. They then will be free to dec ANY guild they like, and can even put all of those old decs back up again after deccing the lifeskill guild.

Last Edit : Sep 6, 2023, 19:28 (UTC)
# 35

Terrible change, you already cannot dec guilds that own no nodes and have no decs up. If someone can declare war on you, congrats you own a node or already have a dec up, therefore you are a PVP guild and should be treated as such. A NW guild will almost always both own a node and/or have decs up and cannot declare war on the smaller guilds the majority of the time anyway. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Last Edit : Sep 6, 2023, 19:29 (UTC)
# 36
On: Sep 6, 2023, 17:38 (UTC), Written by Jonneyfive

The new GvG change limits the players options to contest a grind spot to the following:
- Ask for Duel for Spots, which they might not abide by
- Switch servers which i can do instantly 3 times, and with a 5min CD from then on... Could still be full like it commonly can be
- Flag and feed people to mobs, RIP 5B crystals.
- Grind over them, ruining the time, buffs, & experience of both players hoping to bait them to flagging so you can force them to go red
- Deciding not to grind or play the game...

None of these are ideal and even some shunned by Pearl Abyss and many players.

The fact that flagging up and killing the other player wasn't even listed as option is exactly why this change needs to go through. We're so far gone that we don't even see the intended solution as an option any more. PvPing players is supposed to have a cost. The announcement points this out and even says that those cost are supposed to be "very powerful." PvP should come with a risk and the fact that even veteran pvpers can't even imagine a world in which they would take on a risk to kill another player is a huge problem. 

Last Edit : Sep 6, 2023, 19:34 (UTC)
# 37

Please don't make this change. Marni's realm is enough for people to be able to solo grind and avoid PVP if and when they want to. All it does is punish the  rest of the player base. 

For those of us who have stuck around since 2016, we all managed. Sure there were some frustrating moments over the years with someone trying to gank you while you are focused on a grind etc, but honestly that added to the gameplay over time. It wouldn't be as entertaining without that random element in the game.  Marni's realm is literally the solution for those wanting to avoid that element.... no reason to go beyond that. 

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Last Edit : Sep 6, 2023, 19:48 (UTC)
# 38

Have 3-6 Non Season, No PVP servers would be a better solution. 

With Dec changes, People will have to wait till the person is done grinding (could be hours) and Marni isnt an option for a lot of top end spots for other spots that Marni would be an option, Make Marni more viable. You should get community feedback for what the "Main rotations" are for the grind zones, because some of them are very poorly optimized, like Jade Forest. 

Last Edit : Sep 6, 2023, 19:39 (UTC)
# 39

Everything is already in place to avoid griefing. Implementing this is a pretty baseless solution for a lot of established players/guilds. Protections exist channel swapping exists and is being buffed. Marni realm also exists and is being buffed. These two things alone can stop any and all player interactions if need be. The fact that PA wants to offput moderation onto the players is a little concerning. Instead why not just try to educate the current community you wish so much to wanna retain on how the current DEC system works. Honestly I didnt know all the capabilities you had to actually help players until I became STAFF and was explained to by other members. Let your new players know the options and limitations of the current system. If this is resolved you dont annoy one playerbase to appease the other at all and dont even have to implement current resource limitations/server limitations to protect these people. Its unneccasry and redundant on a backend logic even. So implement your marni changes implement your server swap changes and let that roll for a few months Pearl before you decide to implement this new DEC system please. If you are worried about Perma dec's here is the solution for that..... You can now only declare for 1 month straight... every month you have to redec atleast.  Simple effective and reasonable so please.

Last Edit : Sep 6, 2023, 19:46 (UTC)
# 40

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