Hello PA I hope you enjoy how many ACTIVE players are you gonna lose cause the new changes, probably more on the pvp scene thanks to you insane knowledge of the game, you make the best update ever possible.. if you wanted to destroy the game congrats you actually did it, you not only make the karma system completly unfair. th nodewars are gonna be a good entertaiment and the marni system will make the bdo world probably most empty than ever. Your insane knowledge and your care for all the communityes around the different world is highly respectfull the way you listen to them to improve the game day by day. I cant wait to play a nodewar which i can cap with narus gear which is really hard to get. Finally im gonna be able to farm ALONE in an OPEN world mmo with not a single soul around me, but if for any chance Ive a single guy grifing me i wont able to fight him cause my karma is now family which is really necessary or land him a war to take him out and eliminate the war 1 HOUR LATER is so unfair. So i would suggest you to hire more people to test the game, but i will give you some ideas for free not cost, what about making the rbf capped as well ? then all the players could play them in same conditions, what about punish a guy that if he pk someone  he cant use the market cause he has negative karma, so you would make the bdo player be friendly, or what about making marni arsha like normal server.

So I guess this is what you want bdo to become, a farm simulator where i only have to farm and get more gear to kill mobs faster for the next reason:

 - Arenas are not permanent and you cant use your gear.

 - All node wars except tier 5 is capped so if you cant enter in a good guild or something like this bye bye your gear during nodes cause the rest tiers are capped

 - Rbf depend of the hour cause sometimes there are not people playing it so it becomes boring 

 - Only real PvP that remains is the Arsha PvP that depends a lot of the people you find cause so many time people leave cause they just want to grind.

 - GvG content now is gonna be kekw since the new system dont allow the unilateral wars so lets put this case: you or the other part declare war you can start fighting instant with no punishment and bring more people to fight, but now you need that the other guild accept the war insta or you cant do anything so if there are no GM or SubGM connected bye bye to the GvG contect unless you are lucky enough or you pact the GvG.

So wp PA you have done a great job

Still plenty of owpvp to be had.  I am not sure why you aren't experiencing it.  By the way, there are dozens of other posts on this topic.

PvP is dead/dying since years now, at this point they can just remove it, not many players left to care anyway...

what open world can you do with YOUR REAL GS besides rbf which you are not able to do at certain hours cause there are no people, nodes t5, or arsha if you are lucky and you find someone that wanna fight you and doesnt leave 

Just flag up.  also 1) arsha; 2) mutual deccs....

on who? The only people left in the open world are lifeskillers.  I hope PA creates marni zone for hunting and gathering zones as well. 

PA killed Open World and OWPvP in a single shot. They also started bleeding the node war changes with the cap changes putting a lot of smaller T2 guilds in shambles. BDO is now a true enhancing simulator. Your gear is for show only, it has no real purpose. 

Besides the Cronchange a very good update. The PvP or better PVV (player versus victim) is now over. I wonder why Arsha is not full of people. The PVV people want alsogrind  in peace . Actually, they are not PvP players, but only bullies who can not live with the fact that their actions are now appropriately punished.

1. every DFS was already a grief against the one who has grinded on the spot. But the PVV people have justified the kill, the people then with the reject of the DFS. And if that was not enough, then still the WAR was pronounced against another guild to feel so really great. But actually you were nothing more than bullies. You can still do that today. Go alt+c and kill the people but live with the consequences.

2) I always find it funny when the PVV players always say that you can not reasonably grind on Arsha. --> Why not, you want to defend your spot, you want to finish others. But in reality you don't have the ability to compete against real PVP players. That's why Arsha is not crowded.

3)Actually you don't like that you can't do what you want against weaker players and those who refuse dfs. But it may also be because you have overdone it in recent years.

4. you can use the marnic chamber justsfall and server change also.

5. And finally stop filling up the forum with this content. You are by far a minority in the game. The most players are griefing or overgrind because anyone thinks he can get a spot with dfs. Live with the change and look for an empty spot like others before.

So to summarize your point of view:

PvP is dead becuase

1. Weak people that I wanted to kill and chase out of the rotation will not accept GW with me.

2. Strong people who would accept DFS or War I am too scared to fight, becuase I only prey on the weak.

3. I am scared to murder the weak with Alt+C becuase I can no longer bypass karma by abusing game mechanics.

Got ya, makes sence why all the people with bad morals are angry about this change.

Where is your evidence that the only people in open world are lifeskillers?  Secondly, why do you want to fight people if no one is in your rotation or anywhere in open world?  What's the purpose other than to remove them from your rotation?  If you just want to fight people and there are none on regular servers as you claim, go to arsha, rbf, node wars, arenas, etc.  Why MUST you have people to fight who don't want to fight you?

In resume all people all saying that all changes in PvP are good, are a bunch of pve players who only enjoy kill mobs to get more gs to kill more mobs so they can kill them faster. This game was a open world PVP mmo but i guess all of you lost ark /diablo 4 enyojers cant manage that fact, so they have to nerf pvp to the ground so you can keep killing mobs calmly, and if someone dear to touch you can wear you dear kitchen clothe and karma boom all his pj karma, it was okey with a single pj not the entire pj because is nonsense.

 like I said before to all you are that nonsens who cant even read or get out of the repetitive argument:

- arsha so many time people leave cause they just want grind or they dont want pvp

- rbf at some hour you cant cause there are no people at rbf

- Nodes are capped to a point where you can fcking go with naru gear

-Aos is not your real gear and they are not perma

- GvG unless is pacted you cannot do anything so you CANT do anything to kill the dear grifer who ruins your rota and your dear pve experience, hope you dont suffer that cause i guarantee you that is disgusting, but no problem cause they give you 12 HOURS to grind alone in this game like a single player game.

If all you cant manage these fact go back to your dear lost ark to keep killing mobs..