I mean the silver lining is, that PA kicked everybody off a server with the Marni changes and now I can actually grind in fully remastered with full effects at a smooth 144fps. Always knew players were the problem. 

1: BDO is not dead. Population number in the last 3 months reached the highest peak. G4m3 is ded doesnt work like that.

2: Karma system is not fair, i mean if you were not here at release, you missed the most fun ever and i am sorry for your loss.

3: Marni System 12h per day is the perfect answer vs DFS griefers who were coming and force you to accept a rule invented by high gs old players in order to remove players from the spot they farmed. No other game in history of gaming had a player rule similar like this where 2 PLAYERS HAVE TO DUEL, WINNER GETS THE SPOT. Those griefers even forced their guild members, alliance member to accept and promote the rule. Dude, PvP = Its kill or be killed. In which universe am i suppose to give you my spot so you can farm while i watch? Years of DFS forced PA to all this changes

4: Guild Wars griefing was simple to fix. Up to 120 node wars (avg) per day were one sided. That means up to 120 players griefed other players in forced wars while they were grinding. Dude, one hundred twenty players on EU used this sytem to grief other players, not to practice have fun vs other guilds.

5: BDO was never the perfect pvp game and asking PA to make the game towards more pvp and griefing 100% will lead to a rhetorical question

Let me find the perfect fix for you:

1: Go to Arsha and enjoy the FFA experience

2: Ask PA to give you more Arsha Channels.

3: 300 vs 300 might be similar with Eso's Cyrodiil, 1-3 months campaigns with whatever they have there. That might bring a smile.

Welcome to a new Era where High GS players cant dfs anymore and wont spend time griefing newbs!

o7 Pearl Abyss

sorry dude, we are far away from tera

what killing tera is they removed content and made the game more grindy

and black desert still sitting in the top 10 more profitable game on steam in 2022

and with diablo 4, overwatch collapsing and wow fading, black desert should be fine until 10 gen console

and with unity mess, i feel some mmorpg on unity will have big trouble in near future like genshin impact ^_^

1- you dont know the background of those wars (so stop acting like a victim for no reason when some wars are to kill those griffers that fck your pve exp but you dont have enough courage to declare to it like we do, so i would suggest to stop and think twice before speak  because you are making you look pretty ignornat and ridiculous no offense, but if you do is not my problem :D)

2- asking for more arsha chanel is stupid

3- 300vs300 got delayed and you are crazy if you think servers is gonna hold it when servers cant even hold sieges and nodes

4- there are people on bdo rn not because of these changes, is getting people cause the rest of the games are doing the things worse than bdo and they are slowly dying 

5- enjoy having griffers instead of dfs (unless you are a marni enjoyer who grind only on it as a true mmo gamer kapp)

6- marni was enough to fix all the problems

After all said and smashing your clueless arguments bye bye dear single player enjoyer

I love PvP but deleting people below my GS and calling it "real pvp" just shows how much of a bozo you are. Equilized pvp is as close as we're going to get to showing skill outside of meta classes.

I don't get why all of these players are acting as though forcibly killing people is the only way of griefing people in open world.
Within the current system, Lets say I am grinding monsters as I please within a given area. There are two ways someone can grief me.
1) They actively flag on me in an attempt to either kill me or CC me to feed me to monsters, incurring karma loss,
or
2) They don't flag and simply run around hitting my monsters, actively diminishing my output with no karma risk to them.

The latter is always the better choice from the perspective of the griefer, because if I am to want to get rid of him, I have the following options:

1) I flag on him, killing him, incurring karma loss on myself despite being there first,

2) I flag on him, CC him, and attempt to feed him to monsters, risking his crystals, and relatively little karma loss on my end,

3) I attempt to declare war on his guild, to which he has no obligation to accept, and can continue griefing me with no cost to himself,

4) I succumb to the grifer's desire, and leave the rotation, swap servers, etc. One way or another the griefer has won this way, losing nothing.

The obvious problem here is that the former option is present, but is never chosen because why would you? There is no incentive as as griefer that wants a grind spot to do this when the karma penalties are obviously as powerful as they are, when you can instead take the latter approach and lose Literally Nothing. Do you see the problem here? How grinders have no recourse and how the system further empowers griefers after the recent changes? At least before the changes I could dec on his guild to push him away, And in fact, that was the whole point that war declaration was introduced in the first place.

BDO is a sandbox mmo that decided to remove player driven content. PA is simply tone deaf. Simply adding the marni changes would have been enough to combat the so called grief. It is okay to start grinding over others though, PA does not consider that as griefing. 

But all guild dramas are gone and if anybody attempt to shit talk you simply block them. 

But it's okay, we can always grind more to compensate for the cron changes. 

Real pvp? You leave safe zone in a PVP open world game. You're accepting the risk. That's how it works. Some days you get tons of action others 0. That's the reality and have been since day 1. Stop crying, change channel, get better at pvp, go Marni so you can grind like a bubble wrap kid so your feelings aren't hurt. BDO was never meant or designed to be a pure lifeskill/pve game. Those are side quests.