Reverse back GvG changes.... full of griefers!!! WTF
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# 12
On: Oct 9, 2023, 21:46 (UTC), Written by Centaurs4life
Human nature is to compete, the problem is PA is making it so we can't compete. Arsha really isn't a "solution" because Arsha is 1 server, and the top 1% of 1% of players there. The fights are not evenly matched fights, unless you are hard capped you are massively out geared on Arsha.
When were the fights ever "even" when players were declaring war on one person or just going red on them or feeding them to mobs? Arsha is the solution: it was designed for pvp.
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Oct 10, 2023, 05:11 (UTC)
# 13
On: Oct 9, 2023, 17:13 (UTC), Written by Vanraven
Someone stealing your mobs? Your options are:
* Ask them to stop and if they don't...then: - Personally I notify them always and see who's civilised.
* Switch channels (all channels have a 5min swap cd now) - Invader sais: "Get up, so I can sit." And that is a correct approach? Why should I be forced out when I was there first? :)
* Use marni realm, which eradicates any of those issues completely. - it eliminates the "MMO" aspect.
My responses in red.
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# 14
On: Oct 9, 2023, 21:46 (UTC), Written by Centaurs4life
Wanting to interact with other players confuses you? If we wanted to play a single player game, there are far superior single player games out there.
Human nature is to compete, the problem is PA is making it so we can't compete. Arsha really isn't a "solution" because Arsha is 1 server, and the top 1% of 1% of players there. The fights are not evenly matched fights, unless you are hard capped you are massively out geared on Arsha.
This was a single player game from 2016....I don't see party content except atoraxxion, oluns and world bosses(and thats like a 5 minute thing) which is like 1% from the entire game or less. I don't see a party going to manshaums to farm for their potions or going in underground gyfin to level up past 62 as a party....all of these are solo only as the rest if 99% if the game....is just a solo game from 2016 with "mmo" aspects
So you're telling me that you want to beat undergeared players instead of stronger enemies? 🤔
The same thing is on normal servers too....you having better gear than the other player and rofl stomping him....now how is this better than that guy on arsha? Never seen an evenly match in owpvp except aos.....
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# 15
On: Oct 10, 2023, 05:11 (UTC), Written by Krastonosezs
My responses in red.
Right, so you have options that you choose not to exercise.
Also, I don't want to hear that bs of this being a mmo and that marni realm kills immersion. Bdo has like 5 group spots and only two or three are actively used. The gameplay experience has always been that of a single player game.
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Oct 10, 2023, 07:06 (UTC)
# 16
On: Oct 10, 2023, 05:47 (UTC), Written by Zhaeph
This was a single player game from 2016....I don't see party content except atoraxxion, oluns and world bosses(and thats like a 5 minute thing) which is like 1% from the entire game or less. I don't see a party going to manshaums to farm for their potions or going in underground gyfin to level up past 62 as a party....all of these are solo only as the rest if 99% if the game....is just a solo game from 2016 with "mmo" aspects
Dont mystake the option to play solo with single play game. If you play solo you still have to find a spot, team up or PvP. And yes many people do team up. Ive been hapy to be in many lvling part on places like sausans or manshaums. There are people who prefer little loss in income but to play together with friends. Talling this I should say that BDOindeed need more spots for party play. Thats PA mistake that they still did not fix. Sadly you can party at many spots but you should not care so much for income.
Sadly those changes made BDO more to single play game.
On: Oct 10, 2023, 05:47 (UTC), Written by Zhaeph
So you're telling me that you want to beat undergeared players instead of stronger enemies? 🤔
Naaah he didnt say this. This is not PvP. And most PvPers dont do this. This favorite thing of PvE players.(the ones who hate pvp)
On: Oct 10, 2023, 05:47 (UTC), Written by Zhaeph
The same thing is on normal servers too....you having better gear than the other player and rofl stomping him....now how is this better than that guy on arsha? Never seen an evenly match in owpvp except aos.....
Normal servers has high gear players too. And on Arsha there are lows. One of the fun things in BDO is that you dont know the gear of the other person. One of the worst - one shot mechanic and too much diference in gear. Lately in class too. But yea just because this think you describe BDO should have proper PvP rules. Arsha having zero shows how broken the system is for PvPvE.Arsha is ok for PvP and thats it. Thats why many people wnated for years better PvP system in normal servers. What we get - destroying the PvP and making BDO single player game. Well the direction is not good. But I hear T&L are fixing their mystake so there are some good news for MMOs I guess.
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# 17
On: Oct 9, 2023, 21:46 (UTC), Written by Centaurs4life
Wanting to interact with other players confuses you? If we wanted to play a single player game, there are far superior single player games out there.
PKing, reaming"griefers" or whinig about them are not exactly a meaningful interactions per se.
On: Oct 9, 2023, 21:46 (UTC), Written by Centaurs4life
Human nature is to compete,
That is utter BS.
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# 18
On: Oct 10, 2023, 07:00 (UTC), Written by Vanraven
Right, so you have options that you choose not to exercise. - So what? I am supposed to watch? :)
Also, I don't want to hear that bs of this being a mmo and that marni realm kills immersion. Bdo has like 5 group spots and only two or three are actively used.
The gameplay experience has always been that of a single player game. - Yes, but no. Yes the game had almost no co-op interractions. But no. In reality there is a player interraction and always there was. And not in the way most imagining it. And how one will interract with the other player is up to themselves. Will you fight or will you try to talk and settle the dispute?
In that case steel yourself. You're going to hear a lot of stuff about marni realm.
Also my responses in red.
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Oct 10, 2023, 10:25 (UTC)
# 19
On: Oct 10, 2023, 07:00 (UTC), Written by Vanraven
Right, so you have options that you choose not to exercise.
Also, I don't want to hear that bs of this being a mmo and that marni realm kills immersion. Bdo has like 5 group spots and only two or three are actively used. The gameplay experience has always been that of a single player game.
You are so wrong. Yes party killing mobs is not something comon in BDO, but this is not the only aspect of MMO. YOu forget about several other. And yes the Marni and GvG changes are killing the MMO part.
And the only logical explanation is that PA is killing BDO and makes player go to Crysmon Desert, wich is single play with coop. Kinda BDO is going that way.
But I hope devs will wake up.
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Oct 10, 2023, 10:50 (UTC)
# 20
Im grinding everyday, few hours a day since update and never had bad experiences with others. Maybe try to communicate with others instead of brainless killing them?
If you don't like this game anymore, then leave but majority of this server is happy with this update so?
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