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Balance Hot Takes - Need Nerfs
Oct 1, 2023, 17:13 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Oct 2, 2023, 20:00 (UTC)
# 11
On: Oct 2, 2023, 18:32 (UTC), Written by Piag

Perhaps this is abit of a hot take, but I don't really think succ wiz is an OP class, not currently. Alot of the damage the kit has is either FG or unprotected, and always stationary. Ontop of this, the accuracy of the spec is very very low, amongst the lowest of all classes. Which, in my opinion, is fine as it's a balancing factor requiring more gear to fully extract the value of its benefits.
I also disagree that Awakening Musa needs nerfs as it's really only a rat/skirmisher class, and is HEAVILY punished by any mount of slows.
Keep in mind, I'm saying all of this as an Awakening Wizard that's probably more at the mercy of all of these things than alot of classes.

You as a wizz don't think it's stong shocking. Also not everyone have decent slows, or slow to begin...

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Hnnie
Last Edit : Oct 2, 2023, 22:08 (UTC)
# 12
On: Oct 2, 2023, 20:00 (UTC), Written by CatDK

You as a wizz don't think it's stong shocking. Also not everyone have decent slows, or slow to begin...

I said "Not OP" and "Not needing nerfs," not "Not Strong." It is strong, if it weren't it wouldn't be a mainline NW/Siege class for 6 years running lmao

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Piag
Last Edit : Oct 3, 2023, 15:01 (UTC)
# 13
On: Oct 2, 2023, 00:29 (UTC), Written by Kitori

Please look forward to more Berserker buffs next week.

You make it look as if berserker was the best class at pvp or pve and still getting buffed. 

That's not how it is. 

Awk got shit on with gd removal and that is the multiple "buffs" part that u remember. 

Succ got very small buffs in order to be average now in pve and nothing changed for pvp which this topic is about. 

@op: lahn should shut the fuck up about pvp or pve and l2p. 

Last Edit : Oct 3, 2023, 15:06 (UTC)
# 14
On: Oct 2, 2023, 18:33 (UTC), Written by Piag

Nah I feel like if you get caught by lahn nowadays that's a you problem

REAL problem is you dont see the lahn until it lands on you due to desync abuse if they touch anything during flight and mm landing.

Last Edit : Oct 4, 2023, 11:13 (UTC)
# 15
On: Oct 3, 2023, 14:59 (UTC), Written by halfzware

You make it look as if berserker was the best class at pvp or pve and still getting buffed. 

That's not how it is. 

Awk got shit on with gd removal and that is the multiple "buffs" part that u remember. 

Succ got very small buffs in order to be average now in pve and nothing changed for pvp which this topic is about. 

@op: lahn should shut the fuck up about pvp or pve and l2p. 

This is so true lol. In large scale the class has resorted to only being a CC Bot and people STILL want to nerf it. Totally bizarre when Valks and Draks are replacing it quickly.

You want to nerf something, nerf ALL ranged damage, because that shit is out of control right now.

Last Edit : Oct 5, 2023, 13:14 (UTC)
# 16

Class that is fast and has good eva scaling asks for slows and classes with accuracy to be nerfed.

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Last Edit : Oct 9, 2023, 19:21 (UTC)
# 17
On: Oct 1, 2023, 17:13 (UTC), Written by Order66

Succ Wiz = Slows nerfed; it has PA, protected ranged damage, skill cooldown reductions, and heals, why should this class also get slows. 

Succ Wiz is strong, but definitely not broken. I don't even play this class anymore, but the whole win condition of a caster centers around maintaining range. The kit has slows specifically because it gets absolutely evaporated if a melee class gets on top of it, either by grabs or SA damage - succ wiz/witch is a super squishy class and gets out traded heavily by most opponents in melee range.

The slows allow it to kite with its relatively limited mobility, especially in an era where so many of the melee/midrange classes are cracked out dashing in from off render faster than human reaction time. If you're an Awakening Lahn player, you're unfortunately one of the classes that didn't get enough mobility power creep to keep up with the pack.

Last Edit : Oct 9, 2023, 21:14 (UTC)
# 18

Even though PA is bad at balance, this thread proves the player base is bad at it as well.

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Alry
Last Edit : Oct 9, 2023, 21:28 (UTC)
# 19

Imo Succ Zerker is fine ... Awa Hash, Awa Ranger, archer and tamer are the classes which really overperforming. Rest classes which OP mentioned needs maybe small nerfs for start .. Succ Sage yea perma SA not fair every class should have a gap ... and evasion debuff and accuracy buff are a little bit too strong, just reduce them a bit. 

Last Edit : Oct 10, 2023, 02:19 (UTC)
# 20
On: Oct 9, 2023, 21:28 (UTC), Written by Equben

Imo Succ Zerker is fine ... Awa Hash, Awa Ranger, archer and tamer are the classes which really overperforming. Rest classes which OP mentioned needs maybe small nerfs for start .. Succ Sage yea perma SA not fair every class should have a gap ... and evasion debuff and accuracy buff are a little bit too strong, just reduce them a bit. 

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