War of the Roses will be DOA -- How to avoid this from happening
Oct 11, 2023, 15:07 (UTC)
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Family Name: Al_Nw
Region (NA/EU): EU
Suggestions/Comments: War of the Roses will be DOA - How to stop this from happening
First of all War of the Roses looks like a very amtibious yet promising gamemode. But from looking at the concept for more than 5 minutes, a veteran player can quickly see the fatal flaws in it's current system.
Firstly it is projected to be held every 2 weeks, there will be 2 host guilds and around 200 slots on each side for the 3rd legion, which will be randomly selected players above 680gs. ALOT of people will want to sign up for this, win or lose, it's new content and free rewards with 0 downside. If a regular player like you and me wants to join the War of the roses, they will have to wait weeks before they just have a CHANCE to get in, we're talking about 6-8weeks without beiing able to play it.
Another big issue is the balance of the factions. In EU for example, we have a very dominating Alliance, Conquer, and they will only get stronger over time. Since those are going to be 100 coordinated, hardcap players, the 3rd legion will have little to no chance of stopping them. As they will be uncoordinated randomly selected 680-720gs players that may never have done any pvp content before. Because of this i could see this event (that is held ONCE EVERY 2 WEEKS) be over in less than 30 minutes.
Im sure there will be many more issues as we have yet to even play the War of the Roses, but just these two things alone will make this content near certain DOA, which seems such a shame for the amount of effort beiing put into making this content.
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How to stop this from happening
The War of the Roses will have its special channel: O'dylita 1. Each player will have to pick a faction after doing a short questline. This channel will be permanently running and have a faction based flag system. Much like the Arsha channel, players can instead attack players from the opposing faction and earn points.
These points could be obtained trough daily and weekly faction quests (Could be PVP, PVE and Lifeskill quests). Another way of obtaining points could be killing unique players from the opposing faction, each kill earning 1 point.
The War of the Roses will instead be held EVERY WEEK on sunday. The top 100 adventurers with the most points at the end of the week will have a guaranteed spot to enter the War of the Roses with their faction.
The total points of all adventurers will also accumulate for ur faction and special abilities will be unlocked for the Commander to use during The War of the Roses.
Commanders and leading guilds would still be decided the same way as before.
There would have to be certain measures taken so that the factions stay balanced and not every player joins the same faction.
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This system will solve the current drought of OWpvp content and will arouse alot of competition towards winning The War of the Roses at the end of each week.
I hope this can be considered as i would absolutely love to have a system like this in place.
Feel free to add ur own input and opinions
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Oct 11, 2023, 15:30 (UTC)
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A game mode that is only 2 hour every 2weeks will be totally meaningless.
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Oct 11, 2023, 15:38 (UTC)
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Makes me wonder why they put so much time and effort into something that no one will really ever have a chance to compete in, let alone do well in?
Let's favor the strong by giving them exclusive content.
Well, I'm glad to know that I'll probably never get a gear score like that anytime soon, so I won't have to think about this anyway.
But the time that they could spend on fixing real issues in this game is being sunk in stuff only a small percentage of players can partake in 26 times a year......
sounds.... fantastic?
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Oct 11, 2023, 16:16 (UTC)
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War of the roses could be cool if they did tons of things, but PA didn't so it's dead content for me.
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Oct 11, 2023, 16:23 (UTC)
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i look forward to get a chance to make 1b by riding a horse afk
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Oct 11, 2023, 17:53 (UTC)
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I'll be pleasantly surprised if the servers can even handle War of the Roses, much less if the content is actually good.
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Oct 11, 2023, 18:09 (UTC)
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PA needs to make a medium (100vs100) and small (50vs50 capped) version of this and make War of the Roses daily.
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Oct 12, 2023, 18:27 (UTC)
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The amount of mechanics is too much for 2 hours.
The servers are going lag like crazy and PA will be like what is lag?
500 mil to participate as 3rd legion makes no sense. Why does PvP keep on getting punished?
The requirement of T4 and T5 guilds only to be owner guilds means at least in NA it is rotating between the top few guilds.
2 Week gaps mean people won't care about it after the first few weeks.
I don't know why PA repeatedly keeps on showing carrots about PvP and then punishes it to the point that people won't even bother with it. If PA is so allergic to pvp just remove pvp from the game.
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Oct 12, 2023, 19:05 (UTC)
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On: Oct 11, 2023, 15:07 (UTC), Written by Pruim
How to stop this from happening
The War of the Roses will have its special channel: O'dylita 1. Each player will have to pick a faction after doing a short questline. This channel will be permanently running and have a faction based flag system. Much like the Arsha channel, players can instead attack players from the opposing faction and earn points.
These points could be obtained trough daily and weekly faction quests (Could be PVP, PVE and Lifeskill quests). Another way of obtaining points could be killing unique players from the opposing faction, each kill earning 1 point.
The War of the Roses will instead be held EVERY WEEK on sunday. The top 100 adventurers with the most points at the end of the week will have a guaranteed spot to enter the War of the Roses with their faction.
The total points of all adventurers will also accumulate for ur faction and special abilities will be unlocked for the Commander to use during The War of the Roses.
Commanders and leading guilds would still be decided the same way as before.
There would have to be certain measures taken so that the factions stay balanced and not every player joins the same faction.
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This system will solve the current drought of OWpvp content and will arouse alot of competition towards winning The War of the Roses at the end of each week.
I hope this can be considered as i would absolutely love to have a system like this in place.
Feel free to add ur own input and opinions
You probably never played any fraction based game, especially in free to sign fraction system, what you suggesting is straight up road69 to feed selected players into gurantee slot ( well if you not intentionally suggesting it) and create a situation where people will go and farm weaker players. Yes 2 strong organized group from opposite sides will avoid fight each other and just farm some plebs. Its happened in every single fraction based game i've played so far (i've done it myself).
The problem is that PA dont have any real rewards/reason to join guild, nothing, totally worthless, no content, and because of audience they created for themself they can't hardforce players to join guilds.
Solution is give benefits being in a guild, solution is actually very easy - accupied node must provide real benefits, benefits so strong that you forced to join guild and fight for it. Only after that, when PA forge guild system they can add crap like war of roses.
Just attend any world boss, you'll find like 30 guild masters on a single channel, guild masters of 1-5 man guilds, noone but PA responsible for that.
Right now i can see that this war of roses is the conent for bored hardcapped guilds so they stay in game instead of going somewhere else, but is very unclear why its only once every 2 weeks.
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Oct 12, 2023, 19:15 (UTC)
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On: Oct 12, 2023, 18:27 (UTC), Written by Parvat
The amount of mechanics is too much for 2 hours.
The servers are going lag like crazy and PA will be like what is lag?
500 mil to participate as 3rd legion makes no sense. Why does PvP keep on getting punished?
The requirement of T4 and T5 guilds only to be owner guilds means at least in NA it is rotating between the top few guilds.
2 Week gaps mean people won't care about it after the first few weeks.
I don't know why PA repeatedly keeps on showing carrots about PvP and then punishes it to the point that people won't even bother with it. If PA is so allergic to pvp just remove pvp from the game.
There isn't much mechanics in there. You go to nodes, you capture them and then push boss, that's all.
The 500m silver is probably there to prevent players leaving midgame.
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