This is coming from a die hard PVP'r

This thread is a desperate attempt to try and prove by any logic that the decisions that were made this summer in effect ended OWPVP and is driving the last few nails in the coffin of an otherwise vibrant community.

The unfortunate part is that in reality outside of the few CM's that actually give a shit this is really a dead thread that is basically a sounding board for those that are frustrated at not being listened too.

I imagine it will be deleted here soon Or a new topic of beating on PA will be made.

I understand the frustration.  However, their share price could be driven by all sorts of factors, one of which might or might not be the gvg changes.  So, it's the lack of critical thinking and logic that annoy me.

~ Bring Back Shadow Arena ~

-Problem Solved-

- Old Shadow-Arena but with all the bug fixes

- 1 v 50, 3 v 50 & 5 v 50 PVP content

- Can't see enemies HP bar (like old SA)

- Limited Skills

- Good silver/h for all the PVP lovers who hates PVE grind so they can all have good income to gear-up better.

Not just the PvP, the Cron price also made a lot of ppl leave (the wombo combo of PvP and Crons made me leave/take a long break). I pretty much only had the deboreka and TET FG upgrades left (was gonna go lifeskill after that cause I'd finally be done with the grinding, since I'd be pretty much hard capped, apart from deboreka)...they increased the grind and price of that by 50%. Do I wanna sweat even more? No...but I don't want to waste ridiculous amounts of money either. No good outfits been coming out either, no new content for said PvP, no PvE content (that ridiculous new zone they added is not content, it's just a gear check, and a terrible one at that, since that gear they recommend only applies to some classes), etc...

Still on a break from the game, but sad to see, no good news from the game lately...it's sad, cause I played and enjoyed this game for years. Hoping PA stops being such a greedy mess of a company, and actually starts throwing something to the players, they were making bank before, but it's never enough it seems, and even with them losing players, no effort whatsoever to keep the ones that are left.

I wish there was more non-capped content PvP; even if it's just battlegrounds and stuff, so I can actually use my gear. Unironically, most fun in PvP I've had was in RBF and Sieges (Node Wars I did were always a mess, Sieges are a mess, but the battle isn't over in 30 seconds, there's an actually fight, not just a steamroll most of the time).

All in all, it wasn't just the PvP, they slapped every player across the face, except for the very casual players, that'll hop in, hop out every now and then. For the people that played regularly, for whatever reason, PvE, PvP, a mix of both, all got smacked by PA.

Read my previous statement on page 4 regarding this exact thing..

OP is looking at the stock not the financial quarterly reports

The only idea of "summer players" is not enough to justify the spike in the numbers of players in July. And obviously, after a spike, the fall may be even harder but what's worrying in all that is the following :

Up until now, BDO had a more or less stable population, if we compare periods and not simply one month after the other. The spikes and losses were pretty similar from one year to the next, with the exceptions of some special occasions. Some people were saying BDO could not keep its players and newcomers were only coming and leaving. In the long run, this statement is ridiculous but there, I think we have an example that it really happened.

In short, BDO is not stable like before, it began to really use the common "hype strategies" which are not a good sign for players. Following the mainstream trend at all costs hurts games the most. 

Stop looking at the stock market.... it is not a leading indicator here...

Just so i can help you guys post the correct information these are the

2023. 07. 01 ~ 2023. 09. 30

3Q 2023FY Pearl Abyss Earnings Conference Call

As you can see this doesnt paint a picture of a company that made a bad decision.

We wont know the full extent of the damage these decisions made until Quarter 4 that wont include the bump of July that had the biggest jump in player base

Thank you for posting this. This shows the profits gained when we recieved the surge in new players in BDO. Clearly toxic PvPers were too much for new players and thus they left. It's a shame the PvP nerfs took too long.

What? ... What are you talking about?