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# 101
On: Nov 18, 2023, 01:58 (UTC), Written by Zenzija

Oh I don't blame the CMs or GMs at all, they aren't the ones making the calls on what to do. That's 100% been on J and he's been a piss poor leader to boot.

Doesnt help things he said he wouldnt changed has been changed all in one go. Hes gone back on everything he said would not happen :|

Last Edit : Nov 18, 2023, 03:02 (UTC)
# 102

J needs to step down. He's genuinely killing the game. I've known personally about 40+ people to quit the game since the GvG update dropped because there's no reason to progress. Arsha is dead 99/100. All other content is capped now, big spenders are mainly pvpers and they are beginning to kill PA cash flow as there's no reason to gear up anymore. 80% of bdos issues stem from J making horrible desicion and not listening to the community or to his own devs. He needs to go before he runs the game into the ground for good.

Last Edit : Nov 18, 2023, 03:37 (UTC)
# 103
On: Nov 18, 2023, 03:02 (UTC), Written by NotAvailable

J needs to step down. He's genuinely killing the game. I've known personally about 40+ people to quit the game since the GvG update dropped because there's no reason to progress. Arsha is dead 99/100. All other content is capped now, big spenders are mainly pvpers and they are beginning to kill PA cash flow as there's no reason to gear up anymore. 80% of bdos issues stem from J making horrible desicion and not listening to the community or to his own devs. He needs to go before he runs the game into the ground for good.

You're not kidding about Arsha being dead, I was only pk'd once today...

Last Edit : Nov 18, 2023, 06:20 (UTC)
# 104
On: Nov 15, 2023, 18:16 (UTC), Written by NaniBaka

Past 5 days, going down more.. lol. Just continue with the PVE only PA... it will only continue going down.. killing your own game and BDO whales are slowing down.

As a past whale, I can tell  you NaniBaka over the course of 8 years now across three accounts I have spent about $16,000 on BDO. Now that I hit triple "V" Blackstars and see the low chance on " V" attempts with Fallen God armors, I feel it is a real waste of real life funds to buy to enhance now. My next four end game accessories are 200 billion roughly, I just don't feel like grinding or lifeskilling for that in a 8 year old game ( other MMORPG coming out that maybe better).

The changes in general may have affected their profits but that wasn't the case for me ( I do all three spheres in BDO,PvE, PvP, and lifeskills ).

BDO had its run I feel, it's just monotonous now ( Same theme over and over again).

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Last Edit : Nov 18, 2023, 10:24 (UTC)
# 105
On: Nov 17, 2023, 20:46 (UTC), Written by NaniBaka

Narcissim? So, gear progression, is Narcissim? So, not grinding, just fishing all that is what BDO is about. Dont grind for any type of gear or get good at the game, etc. Just fish. Because if you do, thats narcissim. Brilliant answer! 

No, its exactly opposite of that, narcissism come from players who asking for "equalizing" and giving them everything they want. They are the one who narcistic, because they don't want to grind for gear and etc they cry over and over and over again untill game start to change where they want, and normal players just silently quit game because of what sh1t show it turning into, and when game is completely dead, cycle reapet in next game. That's why i'm asking about removing of privacy on forum and ingame surveys, those narcistic crybabies won't be available to effect game at all and its would be them to quit.

Last Edit : Nov 18, 2023, 20:31 (UTC)
# 106
On: Nov 18, 2023, 10:22 (UTC), Written by Potato

No, its exactly opposite of that, narcissism come from players who asking for "equalizing" and giving them everything they want. They are the one who narcistic, because they don't want to grind for gear and etc they cry over and over and over again untill game start to change where they want, and normal players just silently quit game because of what sh1t show it turning into, and when game is completely dead, cycle reapet in next game. That's why i'm asking about removing of privacy on forum and ingame surveys, those narcistic crybabies won't be available to effect game at all and its would be them to quit.

Unfortunately they would use the excuse of "we will get targetted in game  because of life skill characters plz re add privacy so i dont get targetted no more" when in fact they arent being targeted and all they want is to not play the game an suck every inch of life out if the game. They do it in all game forums unfortunately, i have seen it in WoW , Archeage,Royal Quest(now dead because devs did the exact same thing PA is doing now) , new world, Tera, elder scrolls online ,guild wars 2 .. theres probably more i have seen.

Last Edit : Nov 19, 2023, 05:17 (UTC)
# 107
On: Nov 18, 2023, 06:17 (UTC), Written by Graugus

As a past whale, I can tell  you NaniBaka over the course of 8 years now across three accounts I have spent about $16,000 on BDO. Now that I hit triple "V" Blackstars and see the low chance on " V" attempts with Fallen God armors, I feel it is a real waste of real life funds to buy to enhance now. My next four end game accessories are 200 billion roughly, I just don't feel like grinding or lifeskilling for that in a 8 year old game ( other MMORPG coming out that maybe better).

The changes in general may have affected their profits but that wasn't the case for me ( I do all three spheres in BDO,PvE, PvP, and lifeskills ).

BDO had its run I feel, it's just monotonous now ( Same theme over and over again).

I wouldn't call that whaling, in the slightest. Because in 5 years, I've spent close to $10,000 on this game. I'd consider whaling when you've dropped $25,000 in a year. But you're absolutely right on the rest. But fun fact, J's planning to change PEN Fallen God to make it easier to achieve. Why? Because of whales. People will swipe more to get that edge. We've seen it already with these p2w fences. I won't lie, I bought them and the outfit. Why? Because like you said, I do all 3 as well. I love PvP and I'm sadden to see it sent to the current state of Carebears Online. I love to grind and life skill, I was probably one of the FEW people who actually sold elixirs on the CM. But PA ruined that with the Alchemy changes. If they do anymore changes to life skilling after this Farming, I may just quit the game. They've literally gutted every achievement I've been going for. Guru 50 Cooking? Too easy. Guru 50 Alchemy? TOO EASY. Farming G50? TOO EASY NOW.

The only thing they haven't touched yet and broken is Trade because that was broken to begin with. If I keep playing, it's only to achieve my goal of 1.5m Calpheon Timber Crates for a grand total of 1 Trillion Silver and then I'm out. After that, I'll just work on my little side project of game development. Maybe someone can come up with a decent game to kick BDO to the curb.

Last Edit : Nov 19, 2023, 09:57 (UTC)
# 108

I do not know enough about PA's decision making structure to say any one specific person is at fault but whoever one or several people making these changes need to be fired and black listed from the MMO genre.

I do life skilling, PvE, PvP and pet classes like awk wiz/witch and tamer are currently in one of the worst states ever for PvP and it's going to get worse when Ulukita artifacts come out giving everyone 20 more monster DR per artifact. While wiz/witch and tamer are more effected by this a lot of classes are effected by monster DR. PA has gear capped most content in this game and recently the war dec changes which eliminates 90% of the reason to play this game which is the combat style. Honestly one could argue the PvP and combat style are what kept a lot of players because  i can think of FAR FAR better games for PvE content then BDO.

Life skilling is just not worth it right now compared to grinding as you gather for an hour then spend 4 hours regaining energy because there is no energy pots readily for sale and it takes days to a week to get your order filled. Just leaves afk life skill activies which is boring as fck

Adding onto the 2 previous paragraphs what is the point in grinding silver for gear if you can't even use it,  as another person mentioned this game is 8 years old and there are several other games coming out and while i'm not quitting anytime soon i will jump ship and not look in the rear view mirrow when a competant developer makes a game.  BDO's score is 3/10 in my personal view with everything mentioned above and honestly J bending the knee to kiss the feet of KR players makes me hate PA even more. KR had 1 bad case of lag when NA/EU has dealt with it for 7 years all the while being told its our ISP, J and PA have given us nothing but second class citizen treatment, delayed NA/EU getting content for months after KR gets it and then snubbing their nose at NA/EU suggestions and problems till their 1st class citizens KR experiences it. I would love to see BDO's player stats, from what i have seen in game/ players or the lack of and the recent changes i would venture a guess players are leaving BDO like a faucet was turned on.

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Last Edit : Nov 19, 2023, 19:56 (UTC)
# 109
On: Nov 17, 2023, 23:09 (UTC), Written by NaniBaka

This part is funny -- read it again.

I said - " omg, but everyone wants it gone" his reply? " I'm part of that everyone, carry on".

On: Nov 17, 2023, 23:27 (UTC), Written by MsRiker

You are completely clueless, my dear.

Columba always was against pvpers because he is a life skiller and he also encouraged karma bombing in the world chat. 

Now the ship is sinking and people you guys are acting like "no, this is not what I said". 

BDO is becoming a safe space and I am sure you guys will leave this game when things become more unbearable.

You both have severe problems with basic logic. You were told by a specific person that they are not against PvP (repeatedly) and since they are a part of "everyone" in the game, it does not make sense to say that "everyone is against PvP". Becasue you fail basic comprehension and you skew data to push your argument (i.e., you lie), further discussion with you seems pointless. Making things up when it suits you will not grant you any credit with netiher the community nor the game developers.

Last Edit : Nov 19, 2023, 20:23 (UTC)
# 110
On: Nov 19, 2023, 18:33 (UTC), Written by Asm

You both have severe problems with basic logic. You were told by a specific person that they are not against PvP (repeatedly) and since they are a part of "everyone" in the game, it does not make sense to say that "everyone is against PvP". Becasue you fail basic comprehension and you skew data to push your argument (i.e., you lie), further discussion with you seems pointless. You just make things up when it suits you.

Thank you.  I don't get it.  Non pvpers trying to help and support the cause to reduce the severity of some of the changes get bullied on the forums too.  Ironic, given the cause elucidated by J for the changes in the first place.

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