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Can we stop people from abusing safety mechanics to grief players
Dec 5, 2023, 15:38 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Dec 6, 2023, 17:54 (UTC)
# 11
On: Dec 6, 2023, 17:30 (UTC), Written by Columba

You are angry and wrong.  My guild never decced anyone and got perma decced by a stalker of mine for 15 months.  I don't agree with the complete removal of one sided deccs, but please don't insult our intelligence by claiming that there was no bullying.

But you did, your guildies over the years have just gone to grind spots many times and grinded over top of several people, I even watched one of them do it on stream while watching Big & Shiny.  They have done it to me, you did it to me a number of years ago just walked up to a rotation we were on at castle ruins then said something like "I have been here minding my own buisness blah blah" even tho we had been streaming the game for 4 hours at that rotation.   I found it really funny that you would grind solo at a group grind spot.

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Last Edit : Dec 6, 2023, 20:00 (UTC)
# 12
On: Dec 6, 2023, 17:54 (UTC), Written by Centaurs4life

But you did, your guildies over the years have just gone to grind spots many times and grinded over top of several people, I even watched one of them do it on stream while watching Big & Shiny.  They have done it to me, you did it to me a number of years ago just walked up to a rotation we were on at castle ruins then said something like "I have been here minding my own buisness blah blah" even tho we had been streaming the game for 4 hours at that rotation.   I found it really funny that you would grind solo at a group grind spot.

That's completely false.  We never condoned that.  I avoid others' rotations.  If I am minding my own business and people come and gank me, I won't leave.  I remember being at castle ruins for AN HOUR before anyone showed up and tried to make me leave.  Sorry you got angry, but I was there first.  Nothing in the TOS says I cannot solo there.  I even said at the time "I am only grinding these top 2 packs and avoiding others."  That wasn't good enough for you, you had to have the entire map, even though I'd been there over an hour.  I remember you deccing us, and I still didn't leave.  I don't ever intentionally interrupt others' rotations, and if I accidently do I leave.  Try again.

Last Edit : Dec 6, 2023, 20:26 (UTC)
# 13

Looking at this whole issue and finding its roots of creation faults back to Jae Hee Kim giving the green light and the PA team putting in this accidental dynamic to make money off of.

They want to fix these issues or lower instances of this at "ALL" PvE grind spots the simple answer is make them group grindable. If they want this game to thrive and survive with their new changes they need to change the dynamic of single minded play going forward.

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Last Edit : Dec 6, 2023, 20:51 (UTC)
# 14
On: Dec 6, 2023, 20:06 (UTC), Written by Graugus

Looking at this whole issue and finding its roots of creation faults back to Jae Hee Kim giving the green light and the PA team putting in this accidental dynamic to make money off of.

They want to fix these issues or lower instances of this at "ALL" PvE grind spots the simple answer is make them group grindable. If they want this game to thrive and survive with their new changes they need to change the dynamic of single minded play going forward.

Agreed.  they intentionally designed in conflict for resources.  If they want less pk behavior, they should improve the value from grouping.

Last Edit : Dec 6, 2023, 20:54 (UTC)
# 15
On: Dec 6, 2023, 15:07 (UTC), Written by CCaJJ

Yeah? And you don't think it got increased by 1000 times since guild war being removed from the game?

You and people like you is the problem in this game.. 

Just because they removed the guild war from the game I ve been taking spots from people by feeding them to the mobs making them lose billion worth of crystals and it feels so good. I never feed people to the mobs but I started doing it because of the snowflake approach from pa and because of the player like you who failed to play a game that's made for children... You would do a favor to this community by quitting this game. 

Maybe the game is so bad because toxic people like you exist? Have you thought about that? Ofc not....

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Last Edit : Dec 6, 2023, 21:03 (UTC)
# 16
On: Dec 6, 2023, 20:54 (UTC), Written by Zhaeph

Maybe the game is so bad because toxic people like you exist? Have you thought about that? Ofc not....

Being more toxic is actually pushing PA to be even worse in restricting pvp.  Talk about shooting yourself in the foot...Sheesh

Last Edit : Dec 6, 2023, 23:53 (UTC)
# 17

"Being Toxic", "Abusing"... Have you guys noticed the woke culture always like to control people's behavior and come with words to justify that?
The irony is you guys like to preach "play this game in the way you want", but you guys never accept others playing the game in the way they want.
The system was perfect, players could resolve their own issues until weak mentality players ruin it. The ship is sinking and they don't want to take the blame.

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Last Edit : Dec 7, 2023, 08:35 (UTC)
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Well, not everyone wants to deal with that level of toxicity in chat, so PA is making a financial decision that the people who don't like lots of toxicity are more valuable than the people who love it.  Personally, I am unhappy with the one sided decc changes, but I am very happy with them moderating chat.  I don't need to see that kind of crap if I am trying to enjoy the game.  I guess, I am "woke" lol.  I don't consider it cool, unwoke or heroic in any way to spout racist, homophobic or antisemitic trash in chat, so I am pleased that PA deals with it.  Play how you like, within the TOS.

Last Edit : Dec 7, 2023, 07:22 (UTC)
# 19
On: Dec 7, 2023, 01:10 (UTC), Written by Columba

Well, not everyone wants to deal with that level of toxicity, so PA is making a financial decision that the people who don't like lots of toxicity are more valuable than the people who love it.  Personally, I am unhappy with the one sided decc changes, but I am very happy with them moderating chat.  I don't need to see that kind of crap if I am trying to enjoy the game.  I guess, I am "woke" lol

What is the toxicity you are talking about. Me start grinding over you? Me killing you? Me feeding you the mobs? Mfker do you realize there is 20+ servers that you can swap? You are playing An MMORPG Here is what all those letter stands for. Massively Multi-player Openworld Role-Playing Game. Meaning you will have encounters of humans who does whatever they want. If you don't want to encounter them then quit the game play solo rpg games. 

You are thinking that being at the spot first makes the spot yours but it's not. It belongs to no one and if I have force to take it I will.

You are thinking it like this is an irl coffee shop that you sit a table that is unoccupied now it becomes yours no one can take it till you leave... 

This is a video game most of the people play for escapism. Get your thoughts together for a second and say maybe it's not toxicity maybe that's how the game plays.

Whats the point of people to play the video game if it's excatly the represents the reality that they trying to escape? 

I beg stop being a snowflake and get offended by everything anything, next time fight back if you can't swap server grind get stronger and fight back like 99% of the player base did it before people like you who ruined the game. 

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Last Edit : Dec 7, 2023, 08:42 (UTC)
# 20
On: Dec 7, 2023, 07:22 (UTC), Written by CCaJJ

What is the toxicity you are talking about. Me start grinding over you? Me killing you? Me feeding you the mobs? Mfker do you realize there is 20+ servers that you can swap? You are playing An MMORPG Here is what all those letter stands for. Massively Multi-player Openworld Role-Playing Game. Meaning you will have encounters of humans who does whatever they want. If you don't want to encounter them then quit the game play solo rpg games. 

You are thinking that being at the spot first makes the spot yours but it's not. It belongs to no one and if I have force to take it I will.

You are thinking it like this is an irl coffee shop that you sit a table that is unoccupied now it becomes yours no one can take it till you leave... 

This is a video game most of the people play for escapism. Get your thoughts together for a second and say maybe it's not toxicity maybe that's how the game plays.

Whats the point of people to play the video game if it's excatly the represents the reality that they trying to escape? 

I beg stop being a snowflake and get offended by everything anything, next time fight back if you can't swap server grind get stronger and fight back like 99% of the player base did it before people like you who ruined the game. 

I am referring to the use of racist, homophobic, anti trans and antisemitic slurs in chat.  Scroll up for the argument.  Some people are annoyed that PA chat bans people for those things.  The call it soft and "woke."  They think that they should be free to say whatever they want.   I am delighted that PA moderates chat behavior.  For that, I am called weak, soft and woke, lol.  I don't really care what they think.   We shouldn't have to see that trash in chat.  Calm down, lol.

I don't really care HOW you play.  So settle down.  I avoid your rotations.  If you grind over me when I am in a rotation first, I will outgrind you.  If you kill me, you go red and I announce your location in chat.  You won't ever feed me to mobs since I main a succ ranger.  So, play as you like, as will I.  Chill out and stop assuming.

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