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Request: NA PVE Servers
Feb 13, 2021, 23:26 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Mar 3, 2021, 11:36 (UTC)
# 191
On: Mar 3, 2021, 08:39 (UTC), Written by Woots

You should really stop throw empty argument-less - attack attempt( for that you really have to understand that the opinion about me you can have, have the same importance as a fly passing by in a room ), answer, the moment what you tried just was proved to be more than incorrect. No need to twist anything, just need to observe how the game work to see what a "without mobs BDO" would do. And considering your "answer", you certainly perfectly realized that.

 

Sadlasud ? you mean the guy trying to pretend pve channel are going to damage BDO, yet try what he can to avoid to bring a good argumentation based on how BDO work to "demonstrate that" when its asked.  Yeah i see.

You should really stop throw empty argument-less - attack attempt( for that you really have to understand that the opinion about me you can have, have the same importance as a fly passing by in a room ), answer, the moment what you tried just was proved to be more than incorrect.

I wonder how always you use words against others, that fits you perfectly. My arguments are perfect response to yours. Because yours are just personal thoughts without back ups. They are same as to say that the Earth is flat.

 And Im sure you gona go in one of your favorite trolling loops now.

Yes Sadalsuud was correct, but you cant admit it, because you should admit that you are wrong.

So again. Its ok to ask for PvE server. Nothing wrong in that. But your arguments are false. And there is nothing wrong for us to want to keep the game the way it is now and to evolve in same directions.

Lets see if you can be constructive ot just gona just troll like always.

 

Last Edit : Mar 3, 2021, 12:07 (UTC)
# 192
On: Mar 3, 2021, 11:24 (UTC), Written by IWalkAlone

Feelings... What about facts? Like the fact that spots cant handle more than 3 people ? So how many servers you want ?100 ? 200 ? 1 000 ? Or just make single play options for anyone who dont like PvP. Oh wait they making Crimson Desert.

1. Remove forced pvp
2. Remove channel change cd
3. Add fast travel system to any node (blocked with trade items).

Problem solved.

It's absurd that I can't change 10 channels in 5 minutes to find a place to play. It is also proof that the PA wants this game to be toxic. And that the number of players is still diminishing - well, as long as the "money is correct", they will not do anything about it. Oh sorry they are doing something - they increase p2w even more.

 

Yes. Crimson Desert, New World, Genshin Impact. As you can see, they know how to make money and don't worry about bad reviews because ... they don't exist.

 

What PA do? Adding next dead co-op content and content for p2w players (Hadum).

 

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Last Edit : Mar 3, 2021, 12:09 (UTC)
# 193
On: Mar 3, 2021, 11:57 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

1. Remove forced pvp
2. Remove channel change cd
3. Add fast travel system to any node (blocked with trade items).

Problem solved.

It's absurd that I can't change 10 channels in 5 minutes to find a place to play. It is also proof that the PA wants this game to be toxic. And that the number of players is still diminishing - well, as long as the "money is correct", they will not do anything about it. Oh sorry they are doing something - they increase p2w even more.

If you talking about All servers hell no about first point. SOme of us choose BDO because of that. And Im kinda ok with 2nd and 3th, but I know many people who are in horse breathing will be agaisnt 3th point.

Also making general changes to game design is dangerous. Look what happened to New World for removed forced PvP, and imagine if it was released.

There is not a single positive review about New World atleast one year.( atleast I didnt saw one)

Last Edit : Mar 3, 2021, 12:15 (UTC)
# 194
Écrit le : 3 mars 2021, 07:21 (UTC), par : Woots

thanks to confirm that players dont want to pvp, but just have an "efficient grind" and want to use ""pvp""( even if BDO forced pvp isnt setup for that ) to keep have a solo "efficient" grind.

Guess the case is double closed, no need to keep force, forced pvp on everyone then.

Thanks for proving that you're unable to grasp the concept of pvpve. If players want to pvp only, they'll choose another game mode (RBF, BA, NW...), they're not like some lost players who chose a game that don't fit their wishes. See my point? ^^

Écrit le : 3 mars 2021, 08:39 (UTC), par : Woots

You should really stop throw empty argument-less - attack attempt( for that you really have to understand that the opinion about me you can have, have the same importance as a fly passing by in a room ), answer, the moment what you tried just was proved to be more than incorrect. No need to twist anything, just need to observe how the game work to see what a "without mobs BDO" would do. And considering your "answer", you certainly perfectly realized that.

 

Sadlasud ? you mean the guy trying to pretend pve channel are going to damage BDO, yet try what he can to avoid to bring a good argumentation based on how BDO work to "demonstrate that" when its asked.  Yeah i see.

Oh yeah, Always the same toxicity displayed without any particular point other than trying to ridicule others person, with whatever extrem hypothetical situation.

 

I see. cool ? Do you have anything to say that worth care about in a discussion ?

Sadalsuud, the guy who showed many times how your argumentation is only a purely egotistical desire.

You refused to give arguments and simply consider your personal definition as an undeniable basis for your rhetoric. But do you think you're fooling anyone?

 

So, again, PROVE the benefit coming from a unrestricted pure pve channel.

Meanwhile, I'll simply bring a fact  : after 5 years, no unrestricted pure pve channel, but a channel with emphasized owpvp, and the game is still here and working. You don't want to take devs words into account either, but they talked about working against "karmabombing" (arg, such a wrong word). They also tried to launch a pvpve battlefield, remember?

I know you don't want to listen to my explanations and argumentations, so feel free to deny this : the ones who have the numbers, who know the goal of BDO design, decide to link the regular medium to high pve with owpvp. They DID and still do it, every new pve spots also come with owpvp, and that's logical in a pvpve game.

 

That's the game you're playing on, feel free to prove me wrong. And prove the benefit at the same time, with the same kind of facts.

Last Edit : Mar 3, 2021, 12:39 (UTC)
# 195
On: Mar 3, 2021, 12:08 (UTC), Written by IWalkAlone

Look what happened to New World for removed forced PvP.

They don't removed pvp but changing pvp to pvp from toxic griefing pk.

 

We used this feedback to find common pain points in the game. It was clear that there were concerns in the community about the impact of PvP (Player versus Player) on the overall gameplay experience.

Everyone was vulnerable to attack, at any time, from other players in the rest of the world. 

One of the problems we observed with this system was that some high level players were killing low level players, A LOT. Sometimes exclusively. This often led to solo or group griefing scenarios that created a toxic environment for many players.

Based on what we saw, we realized that we needed to make fundamental changes and not just incremental fixes.

There has been speculation that we have moved away from PvP, this isn’t the case at all. PvP is important to us and we are committed to ensuring it plays a significant role in our game. To be specific, by PvP we mean, fair fights that are organized, skill based, and opted into by all participants. Not PKing (Player Killing), which is a predatory behavior that relies on exploiting another player’s lack of experience, progress, readiness, or willingness.

 

I have been playing Cabal Online for almost 5 years. I have participated in every weekend faction war. Why? Because was: fair fights that are organized, skill based, and opted into by all participants.

I spent the rest of my time only on pve only channels. So I'm pve or pvp player? 

Cabal Online is same as BDO = Korean grinder.

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Last Edit : Mar 3, 2021, 12:50 (UTC)
# 196
Écrit le : 3 mars 2021, 12:32 (UTC), par : Senemedar

They don't removed pvp but changing pvp to pvp from toxic griefing pk.

 

We used this feedback to find common pain points in the game. It was clear that there were concerns in the community about the impact of PvP (Player versus Player) on the overall gameplay experience.

Everyone was vulnerable to attack, at any time, from other players in the rest of the world. 

One of the problems we observed with this system was that some high level players were killing low level players, A LOT. Sometimes exclusively. This often led to solo or group griefing scenarios that created a toxic environment for many players.

Based on what we saw, we realized that we needed to make fundamental changes and not just incremental fixes.

There has been speculation that we have moved away from PvP, this isn’t the case at all. PvP is important to us and we are committed to ensuring it plays a significant role in our game. To be specific, by PvP we mean, fair fights that are organized, skill based, and opted into by all participants. Not PKing (Player Killing), which is a predatory behavior that relies on exploiting another player’s lack of experience, progress, readiness, or willingness.

 

I have been playing Cabal Online for almost 5 years. I have participated in every weekend faction war. Why? Because was: fair fights that are organized, skill based, and opted into by all participants.

I spent the rest of my time only on pve only channels. So I'm pve or pvp player? 

Cabal Online is same as BDO = Korean grinder.

And that's why in BDO giving to players themselves the means to counter excessive behaviours, in addition to a correct karma system and owpvp rules, is a far better choice. Because from launch, devs chose to give us the possibility to PK and they sticked to it on their regular channels. "Korean grinder" is not enough to define a game, don't you think?

 

If New world don't want to allow the outlaw behaviour at launch and only allow this kind of pvp, that's a game design choice.

(not to mention that their definition of pk is really personal). Being outlaw is one level of freedom some may appreciate, while others won't like ; but a game like this which is not even able to set its path and stick to it seems more like an opportunistic game that will change with the wind.

 

(On a totally personal note, I wouldn't have much confidence in the game simply because of that).

Last Edit : Mar 3, 2021, 12:59 (UTC)
# 197
On: Mar 3, 2021, 12:32 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

They don't removed pvp but changing pvp to pvp from toxic griefing pk.

 

We used this feedback to find common pain points in the game. It was clear that there were concerns in the community about the impact of PvP (Player versus Player) on the overall gameplay experience.

Everyone was vulnerable to attack, at any time, from other players in the rest of the world. 

One of the problems we observed with this system was that some high level players were killing low level players, A LOT. Sometimes exclusively. This often led to solo or group griefing scenarios that created a toxic environment for many players.

Based on what we saw, we realized that we needed to make fundamental changes and not just incremental fixes.

There has been speculation that we have moved away from PvP, this isn’t the case at all. PvP is important to us and we are committed to ensuring it plays a significant role in our game. To be specific, by PvP we mean, fair fights that are organized, skill based, and opted into by all participants. Not PKing (Player Killing), which is a predatory behavior that relies on exploiting another player’s lack of experience, progress, readiness, or willingness.

 

I have been playing Cabal Online for almost 5 years. I have participated in every weekend faction war. Why? Because was: fair fights that are organized, skill based, and opted into by all participants.

I spent the rest of my time only on pve only channels. So I'm pve or pvp player? 

Cabal Online is same as BDO = Korean grinder.

And they made changes that leads to fact that testers had nothing to do in New World. And they start to rework entire game. Some times one change can bring many things downs. Look also about Archage, Tera.. even Lineage 2.

But I understand you. Im for fair fights too. But also I like the drama that PKing bring. Someone to kill me, then to hunt him, if he is strong is a challenge. Also bringing friends from both sides. Diferent scenarios that are more fun than simple organised fight. There is challenge to surprise. For example one of the best memories from Lineage 2 was that we, 11 people manage to ambush enemy clan of 27 people, more geared than us. And we won. I dont know if you understand me but those things cant happend if everything is fair. Those situation are the flavore I (and many others ) love in BDO.

 Also I saw what happened in Seasonal PvE if you dont have OP char for grinding. You cant take single mob because there is so much griefing. Thats why single PvE server wont help, not even 5 or 10. And then why karma? Why bounty system ? And loved flaver is gone.

 Thas why Im for making a proper system that will please everyone and keep the idea of the game the same.

Last Edit : Mar 3, 2021, 13:17 (UTC)
# 198

+1000 for PVE ONLY channels.

 

Block the PVE characters to PVE channels (no AH with PVP channels),you use It,you stay on It.

Only Arena PVP authorized on PVE channel.

PVP switch off .

 

Remove Karma from PVP (or reduce It a lot) and offer a bounty system for PVP channels.

PVP switch ON for ALL anywhere,anytime.

 

PVP players can really PVP all the way to the top!

PVE player can run in circle on horse for hours without taking the risk of sudden death.

Problem solved,everyone happy  ^^

 

Later,take a look on which are the most populated channels to know where most players go...question answered.

 

Edit:And let some channels with PVP with hard Karma for good mesure...

PVEPVP world is a mess right now /:

 

 

Last Edit : Mar 3, 2021, 14:51 (UTC)
# 199
 
Écrit le : 3 mars 2021, 12:15 (UTC), par : Sadalsuud

Sadalsuud, the guy who

still didnt brought that argumentation regarding why pve channel would be bad for BDO. You have years of pve olivia, you have a good year of seasonal. BDO still is alive and his doomsdays doesnt seem for tomorrow.

 

So i wait your argumentation. For now you still speak to say nothing.

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Last Edit : Mar 3, 2021, 15:07 (UTC)
# 200

OK, or even make the Olivia servers not have a time limit on them, but scale back the XP to normal after a month upon return.

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