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Request: NA PVE Servers
Feb 13, 2021, 23:26 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Feb 20, 2021, 17:16 (UTC)
# 71

Well... Again... 

 

Always the same arguments, but in the end, BDO is still better with pvpve settings, and would be better with more ways for players themselves to fight the excessive use of some features.

 

Have a good karma system, temporary pvp death penalties, a protector status to hunt pks, a dangerous but temporary red status, in short a way for players to be able to fight as outlaws but also as recognized soldiers (part of an elite troop from Calph or Valencia, for example) would be more beneficial to BDO.

But yeah, I know that this suggestion still implies the lack of a protected way of playing BDO, and that it will not please some players. Still, I think it is the best choice for BDO. 

 

Last Edit : Feb 20, 2021, 20:31 (UTC)
# 72
On: Feb 20, 2021, 15:41 (UTC), Written by Graugus

Hello Josiah,

 

A alternative to this option and it's one that seems to e working pretty well for me is to log off of BDO for 31 days, return and play for 30 days on the Olvia servers. I have saved many of headache and real world dollar by doing this and it seems to keep me focused on what I need to do as a life skiller/casual without worry of someone PKing me over a harvesting/grind spot.

I got a friend to join me in doing this and he has said it was the best decision or idea I have come up with since me and him started the game five years ago.

 

This is just an option for you to think about since I feel it's a lot more enjoyable without the added stress of someone else creating their content off of you.

Thank you for the suggestion. I think we will start doing that. That would save a lot of frustration. There are other MMO's coming up we can rotate in. I am glad that this year marks the first year in a while, where there are a lot of upcoming MMOs coming to North America that we are excited about.

Last Edit : Feb 21, 2021, 04:56 (UTC)
# 73
On: Feb 19, 2021, 23:28 (UTC), Written by Josiah

I know this is a stupid idea, and will probably not end well...

 

What about this "compromise". You have the option to avoid PVP if you are in lifeskill gear. Nobody outside of the extremely toxic (minority) who enjoys making others suffer would lose anything. I understand that this is a compromise, and I personally know some PVE players who would argue this is not enough.

 

Personally, I have been experiencing and extremely high ammount of people starting fights with me while I engage in lifeskill activities that are not impacting the other player. I find myself running into the following scenrio: A player in combat gear kills me while I can't defend myself. Ususally, I am involved in a lifeskill animation to boot. I come back after changing to my combat gear. The player now runs away from me like a coward. I assume it's because they now assume I am equipped and ready for a fight, and they never wanted a fair fight in the first place. This is what has been bothering me lately. I personally have no problems defending myself while engaging in combat with combat gear. 

 

That being said, I have friends that would not be happy with any compromise unless it's a PVE server. I honestly would be on the PVE server to prevent the above scenario without an alternative solution.

 

Note: A Level 49 alt is not an option. The quests I am doing require you to be 55 or higher. The quests also require you to be in non-safe zones.

+1 for this idea!

 

I agree with what many are saying here, part of the magic of BDO is the PvPvE environment. Sure, it sucks when you get the short end of the straw, but honestly in the long run it's better for the overall health and excitement of the game. This is spoken from a long-time lifeskiller.

 

But I do agree that we need better options to avoid this when it is absolutely not asked for. Something like temporary protection from PvP while wearing lifeskill gear is a great solution, imo. It gives players a fair choice without having to implement entirely separate environments for them to play in, which I think in the longterm would damage the atmosphere and PvPvE formula of BDO. I would love it if PA considered implementing something like this :)

Last Edit : Feb 23, 2021, 00:27 (UTC)
# 74
On: Feb 20, 2021, 07:02 (UTC), Written by Woots

 

 

"So what do I do in this situation?""

As you certainly might have read in the answer you quoted. But you still ask a question i already answered to :

 

No system is perfect, and the forced pvp system will not help you ( if you arent a player that declare war and pk in loop during hours karma free, or the one that dont want to play in arsha ) in that very precise situation because if it were, it would also allow pker to create very toxic situation, as you would give a certain edge to forced pvp. ( and you certainly live since long enough on that earth to understand that as Human will remain Human especialy in such egotistic game environment ) And no automated system can detect such "case by case"

 

The system ALWAYS have faced toward the "player disliking forced pvp" ( for obvious reasons ) and you can see that as forced pvp only was "nerfed"' over the years ( note that i indeed only speak about forced pvp, not all others form of consensual pvp so duel agreement )

=> necessary in a pure manichean situation like you ( ofc ) described, the forced pvp will still not give you reason, because the world isnt manichean. And it would lead to WAY too much situations, in wish the advantage granted to forced pvp to solve that manichean situation, could be used to abuse and grief others players

 

So as i said enough time, that's why i dont undertand why forced pvp lover ( so in the end : PA ) are so entilted to want force everyone to play under the forced pvp regim.

You would -remove- players dislking forced pvp with pve channels, PA would have their hands untie to make more change in favor of : give power to forced pvp / improve all that in whatever way you understand "improve that"

 

"OW PvP can be improved by better laws, a better system to protect non-PvPers and better systems to protect people from being Karma Bombed.  Karma Bombing is a problem, just like toxic PK, and both issues need to be addressed, while maintaining the integrity of this sandbox-y, open world, PVX MMORPG."

 

Yup it can be improved, and thoses improvement dont prevent the existence of "pve channels" as the "owpvp" never was a necessity for BDO to function and its more a "i like to play under such rule set".

And as usual, a person wish / opinion have no reasons to be imposed to everyone else "just because".

 

 

So sure, if PA want to seriously work & rework forced pvp "fun" whatever, its cool for thoses liking that, but pve channel choice still should be a thing for thoses having a different vision about "how to play BDO"

 

 

 

You typed out 3 paragraphs and still failed to a answer the question.

 

"If I am grinding a solo rotation, and someone else starts hitting mobs in that rotation, while ignoring any form of peaceful dialogue, what am I supposed to do in this situation?"

 

Save your philosophies, I'm not asking for your opinion. I am asking what options are there when faced by this situation. We have limited options, and each of those options all fail at protecting the defender of the spot.

 

In BDO, when someone is occupying a SOLO grind spot, like Stars End, you better believe they'll want to defend that spot. Players who are bad at pvp will get pushed out or forced to Karma Bomb, and players who are good at pvp will go red, if the intruder keeps coming back -- and THIS is the problem the OP is speaking of -- when someone who can PVP  is grinding, someone comes in, hits mobs, ignores all dialogue and gets rightfully killed for being a dipstick, and after getting killed for trying to intrude on someone's gameplay experience, go to forums to cry for PVE only servers.

Last Edit : Feb 23, 2021, 00:27 (UTC)
# 75
On: Feb 20, 2021, 07:02 (UTC), Written by Woots

 

 

"So what do I do in this situation?""

As you certainly might have read in the answer you quoted. But you still ask a question i already answered to :

 

No system is perfect, and the forced pvp system will not help you ( if you arent a player that declare war and pk in loop during hours karma free, or the one that dont want to play in arsha ) in that very precise situation because if it were, it would also allow pker to create very toxic situation, as you would give a certain edge to forced pvp. ( and you certainly live since long enough on that earth to understand that as Human will remain Human especialy in such egotistic game environment ) And no automated system can detect such "case by case"

 

The system ALWAYS have faced toward the "player disliking forced pvp" ( for obvious reasons ) and you can see that as forced pvp only was "nerfed"' over the years ( note that i indeed only speak about forced pvp, not all others form of consensual pvp so duel agreement )

=> necessary in a pure manichean situation like you ( ofc ) described, the forced pvp will still not give you reason, because the world isnt manichean. And it would lead to WAY too much situations, in wish the advantage granted to forced pvp to solve that manichean situation, could be used to abuse and grief others players

 

So as i said enough time, that's why i dont undertand why forced pvp lover ( so in the end : PA ) are so entilted to want force everyone to play under the forced pvp regim.

You would -remove- players dislking forced pvp with pve channels, PA would have their hands untie to make more change in favor of : give power to forced pvp / improve all that in whatever way you understand "improve that"

 

"OW PvP can be improved by better laws, a better system to protect non-PvPers and better systems to protect people from being Karma Bombed.  Karma Bombing is a problem, just like toxic PK, and both issues need to be addressed, while maintaining the integrity of this sandbox-y, open world, PVX MMORPG."

 

Yup it can be improved, and thoses improvement dont prevent the existence of "pve channels" as the "owpvp" never was a necessity for BDO to function and its more a "i like to play under such rule set".

And as usual, a person wish / opinion have no reasons to be imposed to everyone else "just because".

 

 

So sure, if PA want to seriously work & rework forced pvp "fun" whatever, its cool for thoses liking that, but pve channel choice still should be a thing for thoses having a different vision about "how to play BDO"

 

 

 

You typed out 3 paragraphs and still failed to a answer the question.

 

"If I am grinding a solo rotation, and someone else starts hitting mobs in that rotation, while ignoring any form of peaceful dialogue, what am I supposed to do in this situation?"

 

Save your philosophies, I'm not asking for your opinion. I am asking what options are there when faced by this situation. We have limited options, and each of those options all fail at protecting the defender of the spot.

 

In BDO, when someone is occupying a SOLO grind spot, like Stars End, you better believe they'll want to defend that spot. Players who are bad at pvp will get pushed out or forced to Karma Bomb, and players who are good at pvp will go red, if the intruder keeps coming back -- and THIS is the problem the OP is speaking of -- when someone who can PVP  is grinding, someone comes in, hits mobs, ignores all dialogue and gets rightfully killed for being a dipstick, and after getting killed for trying to intrude on someone's gameplay experience, go to forums to cry for PVE only servers.

Last Edit : Feb 23, 2021, 05:41 (UTC)
# 76
Écrit le : 23 févr. 2021, 00:27 (UTC), par : PeaceInChaos

You typed out 3 paragraphs and still failed to a answer the question.

 

Actualy i answered.

You want to use pk the way its not designed for, using a manichean exemple to make look like it would be necessary to give more power to pk. Even if its not the topic

Écrit le : 23 févr. 2021, 00:27 (UTC), par : PeaceInChaos

 I am asking what options are there when faced by this situation

 

 

Even if its totaly out of topic the solution is simple : Dont bother about the others players, grind what you have to grind and its all going to be fine.

I never was "outgrinded" because i'am just not pepega enough to be obsessed by a particular "rotation" / pack order, or be all out if someone try to "take over"

Correctly manage pack amount ( so what pack to pick )+ respawn timer and you will never have any problem to grind what you can grind. if someone leave you "no mob to kill", its only because he manage that more correctly than you. that's it.

 

Écrit le : 23 févr. 2021, 00:27 (UTC), par : PeaceInChaos

a SOLO grind spot

 

thing is, like somes said, its not a instancied grind spot, nor is a dark souls-like with players invading YOUR game.

there is no "solo grind spot", its : the world is open to everyone.

 

another time, the problem is your perception and you want something the game doesnt provide. In that case, you should want to have grind spot tweaked / reworked, or whatever else to fit correctly the ability to welcome more players without anyone beeing "hindered" in a MP situation.

 

Last Edit : Feb 23, 2021, 10:51 (UTC)
# 77

PVE server where the characters you create there can only be played there. No server swap, no mailing, no shared market with the others, no nothing... and you fixed it for everyone.

Last Edit : Feb 23, 2021, 11:48 (UTC)
# 78
On: Feb 23, 2021, 05:36 (UTC), Written by Woots

Actualy i answered.

You want to use pk the way its not designed for, using a manichean exemple to make look like it would be necessary to give more power to pk. Even if its not the topic

 

Even if its totaly out of topic the solution is simple : Dont bother about the others players, grind what you have to grind and its all going to be fine.

I never was "outgrinded" because i'am just not pepega enough to be obsessed by a particular "rotation" / pack order, or be all out if someone try to "take over"

Correctly manage pack amount ( so what pack to pick )+ respawn timer and you will never have any problem to grind what you can grind. if someone leave you "no mob to kill", its only because he manage that more correctly than you. that's it.

 

thing is, like somes said, its not a instancied grind spot, nor is a dark souls-like with players invading YOUR game.

there is no "solo grind spot", its : the world is open to everyone.

 

another time, the problem is your perception and you want something the game doesnt provide. In that case, you should want to have grind spot tweaked / reworked, or whatever else to fit correctly the ability to welcome more players without anyone beeing "hindered" in a MP situation.

 

Your first answer is quite fun : 

"You want to use pk the way its not designed for"

No interpretation, right ? XD

 

Then, we got it : forced pvp is the absolute shame and it is useless, but ks is totally fine, acceptable and it works. 

Still no personal bias, for sure. Well, whatever... 

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