Freedom = Toxicity.

This is where we are. Winnie the pooh would agree.

How can you be so insane that so much people understand nothing about mmo Sandpark.

You don't like individual freedom.

Go play another game.

Apparently you don't know much about a sandbox mmo either. I think you might be confusing a sandbox mmo with a sandbox single player rpg.

i speak about sandpark. not sandbox.

Sandpark like the game i listed. Lineage 2 being the best of them.

Sandbox is a very different genre. where there is only SWG and Eve online that falls into the category.

the game is not *solo* as long as there is a conflict against each player..

Solo means solo. completely solo. the notion of * other player * does not exist in a Solo game.

conflict is social interaction. Co-operation for the same purpose exists and it mostly exists in the guild environment and that's fine. I have played for more than 10 years at L2. That every individual outside my clan is an enemy that is nothing special and it's good

I don't know where you are from, but there isn't a "sandpark" term here. What does that even mean?

Anyhow, I played Lineage 2 since 2004 when it launched. What you seem to forget that when it came to "freedom" Ncsoft punished toxic behavior. Training mobs on players was considered a offense, also in beta you could stun lock a unflagged person so that they could die to mobs and lose exp, when the game went live they changed this and a lot of "toxic players" left the game.  They claimed the game became "carebear". It just meant they could no longer grief non hostile players to make them die to mobs.

Its cool to have "freedom" but this word is much over used. And people like yourself tend to equate it to meaning you can do anything to anyone when you feel like it. The problem is when you start infringing on a persons "play time". Time is very real. PA knows this which is why they updated their rules. When you infringe upon someones time, you are messing with PAs ability to generate money. And that is a big no no. 

NCsoft never banned anybody for anything. Whether its train farm feed or Multiboxing bot. You clearly never played retail.
You can still today chain stun player . Feed people to the monster is always possible where you got this so wrong information. Feed people to the monster is always possible I was still on L2 GOD/Classic before BDO in 2015.

Generate money is not a excuse for changing a game philosophie. video games normally. it is an art before being a commercial product.
IF we follow the logic. Better to release unfinished and mediocre games. it costs less and brings in as much. ( hahahaha pretty much the state of the videogame industrie for last decade)
Money is not an argument. Because it can be used in all sauces.

Why not release the flying mounts? Teleporters in each city? Pet battles and stupid mount collection.
Why not release the new class in Gacha Mode like on Genshin?
It would bring in a lot more money. Generate a lots more money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6q9v0r9th0

A niche game has the fucking right to exist. Soon unicorns and ponies on Eve online?

This is the level of stupidity that the kind of people like you cause.  The Plague Casual cancer community. that you have thousand of themepark mmorpg just for you. .
Even new world becomes a pure PVE Themepark game. We can already rename it Daily World.

All the game is not done by everyone. If BDO has remained good over the past 5 years, it is mainly by respecting these initial ideas as much as possible. Not by selling their ass to volatile fake mmo players. Who will jump on the next mmo anyway.

I still remember the number of morons that have jumped on Bless Online/Astellia. KEK.
It's going to be the same bullshit with Elyon.
BDO does not have to change. He is very good as he is. it would be a complete failure if he became like 95% of the other mmorpg we end up doing. become a bad fucking copy of wow.

after eh. I am not against sanctions against people who completely harass without any reason behind.

But to make it impossible to interact with players like a lot of people here sugest. I would never tolerate.

Wrong. I played L2 since beta retail. Thats 2004 homie. And no you couldn't NOT CHAIN STUN a unflagged player. But you could in beta.  They changed it because toxic players could feed you to mobs. And yes training players was considered a offense, I actually got reported for it quite a few times on my BH/FS. They could of changed all of that in recent times, but not in the early life of the game.

And me in over 10 years its never happened.
It was even very important to disturb the opposing clans in their progress. Even more progress like the quest for Noblesse and Raid boss Access.
Be over 200 in front of the gate of, Zaken, AQ, Valakas, Antheras, baylor,Beleth ect... Barakiel , monopolizing Blazing swamp kill all passing people. On L2 leaving the other clans alone was never a possible question.
Clearly you never, play L2 seriously. the only places where I can see sanction for these kinds of activity is clearly on a small committee private server. Never on retail.
The L2 you seem to have experienced never existed for me 2004-> 2015

You just don't know the game mechanics like you think you do. I have a VERY good memory about the game. And I'm telling you right now, that after beta you could not stun or even debuff a non flagged player. 

And yea I played since beta. Stopped after c5 sometime and only played here and there.

Sleep, Anchor, hex. yes. you was not able , but Damage dealing CC like Stun shot, Hammer Crush Sonic blaster Paralyze of SK work, Necromancer cursed man stun too.  the only stun I remember that didn't work was shield bash. ( not even sure about this one)
Feed people to monster was common but unnecessary anyway.  killing people directly and making them waste a week of exp was wide enough.
Rather stole the mob train anyway.<- wat really happen ^^
U never have to worry about PK kill when you are in a serious clan/Alliance. Even less of a problem when you monopolize the Zariche and the dual aka.

Anyway, no need for HS any longer , I give my opinion. BDO is a Sandpark and playing the game(for real) is not being toxic. The only toxic person is the person who wants to turn BDO into something BDO isn't.

What i meant is that this term is bullcrap for both sides.

PA for hell aint enforcing shit, the term is super subjective, and yet if PA wants to, anything can be put into this offense