As I have mentioned before, I get griefed by both weaker players and the same gs players as myself, however, it is mainly the latter. 

With the system as is, this is an abuse of the system. 

I literally had someone the other day, remove all their armor, you could literally see them remove their Dead God armor, something I am nowhere near right now! 

They came on to my grinding rotation 2 hours into my grind, I had been dueling and even took a break because a player asked if they could take the rotation for a while, they let me know when it was free again and I came back, I am not unreasonable, and I will always honor a duel for a spot.  

This person was well geared, I later found out they actually are 30 GS higher than myself. Yet, they stood there removed their gear, and proceeded to grind on top of me, just to grief me because when I asked them "Hey I've been here a while, do you want to duel for the spot?", they said, "No, I'm fine, I'll just take it." I killed them 3 times, without a death, at this point they realized they were out-matched and resorted to this grief, these are the players I wish a fix to prevent, or for a movement from PA which declares this sort of behavior against their TOS, categorizing it directly as harassment. 

As it stands, it is sadly all within the confines of the game mechanics.  Hopefully they can address this issue.  I think the timer suggestion Rika mentioned is a good staring point, but I can see how it can be abused by stronger players.  As it stands, Karma can be abused by anyone with zero penalty and that's just not right.  Least if someone is PKing someone, they lose Karma, but by Karma Bombing (negatively affecting another's game experience with the intent of anonoying them so much they are coersed into PKing.  Key words, "intent" and "coerse"), you lose nothing.

Dear Gottplex!

We hear'd your issue, but luckily we found a fix for your problem:

Hopefully you can now enjoy your karma less time in the beautiful world of Black Desert!

Fly safe!

LS

Thanks for your input.  This should be stickied in a few threads.

Guides: How to bully new players

New Players: Caution before purchasing this game

Suggestions: How to destroy the player base with poorly designed PVP mechanics

Instead of suggesting a player wishing to PVP for their territory go to a server designed specifically for that you instead suggest a way for stronger players to easily abuse and farm weaker players.

Yes, like I say this is about fixing the broken mechanic and not allowing people to abuse this to harass people. I thank you for actually reading the thread and understanding this issue. I think what the honourable player mentioned earlier, is a good suggestion, however, I do also believe it might be possible to abuse this system. 

I think any suggestions are good, as they may help PA create a system which works to protect lower gs players from harassment and high GS players from the harassment too, and allow them to defend their spot against Karma bombing players, which is what this whole thread is about. Our movement here is not to create a solution, but to spark some constructive messages which might help improve the system, which is failing so many. 

Literally, you seem to have completely missed the entire point of this thread. Arsha is a bandaid to a bigger problem, that has not yet been fixed, that is the abusable system of Karma. 

If I have been farming on one server for hours, and someone comes over and just harasses me, why should I have to move, just because I am not content with being harassed by a player? That is the problem here, not, oh well you can swap channel.

That is basically saying you should give up on any injustice in the world because you can have a cup of coffee at home. 

There is a problem here, and it is an abusable system that can be used to harass players. 


Do not forget that High GS players can abuse this system just as much against low GS players, you can just take off your gear and one-shot low GS players and lose almost no Karma, it is a completely broken system, that needs fixing, somehow. 

I think the player who your post is in response too, made a good suggestion, one actually aiming to be constructive. If you think you could improve that suggestion, please take a swing, however, this comment is not constructive at all. 

Also seems like you have not read the thread properly, or understood the problem, trying to be addressed. If you wish to help and be constructive please push the conversation forwards, look at the defined problem and think about how you might fix it. 

Even if you do not encounter that problem yet, you may do it later and this is aimed at stopping that problem, so more people thinking about it, will help drive constructive paths to fix it, so it is no longer a problem for anyone, even if they don't encounter it yet. 

If more penatlies was to find there way to the weaker players of PK ganks. I can guarantee that most of the established players as a whole. Will abuse weaker players till most completely quit the game.

As someone else already posted the current solution to this issue. Just go to the server where you don't lose any karma from PKing. I suspect the reason this is not a popular suggestion. Is because in stead of these players griefing weaker players on normal channels. They would be the weaker players getting griefed by stronger players on Arsha. Which pretty much makes them hypocrites to the highest degree. 

That being said, Arsha highlight exactly what would happen if the established player. Do not incurr any penalties for forcing themselves on the weaker player. To simply put it, the weaker player simply don't get to grind. Instead the more established players will completely dictate how weaker players progress. Because there is simply nothing that the weaker player can against the more established players. 

The best that I can come up with. Is for the developers to split the game channels down the middle. 50% PvE only channels, and 50% Arsha channels. That is the only way I see both parties being somewhat pleased. To be against such a thing and still ask for the weaker players to be punished for the actions of the established. Is simply one motives to feed ones need to grief, that which can't fight back. End of story!

Noone harases anyone. The spot is not yours, it's everyone's. If someone want to kill mobs near you, you have no right to any kind to complain about it. You either deal with it, move away, or kill him and take it's consequences It's eintierly your own choice to make your own life harder.

Again, you have missed the entire point of this thread, I feel I need to keep addressing this, Karma Bombing: is the act of a player removing their gear to harass another player. 

This is what I am trying to address, I am not trying to make it so that players can run around killing low GS people. The INTENTION of this thread is to stop Karma Bombing. 

I have every right to any complaint I may and can have, this thread however is intent on being constructive, not destructive. 

Again, I need to keep reiterating, this thread is about an abused in-game mechanic, the act of taking gear off to Karma Bomb another player. Your replies suggest you have no intent on being constructive whatsoever.