So BDO can end up like Tera did when those Korean Devs did what you telling these devs to do? I agree they should do the dumbest thing that a P2W MMO game Dev can. Make it so that the established players and Whales can and will grief all of the PvEers, and up and coming players out of the game. Actually Blade and Soul did the same thing, now it's playerbase is begging for the devs. to put bots into the game so they can queue and get rewards.

I agree the Devs here should totally do what you are suggesting. That way people like myself, can point and laugh even harder. While whole guilds of perma reds camp that exits and roads to Velia and Hediel. It would be so funny to watch the mass exodus of players from BDO. I guess at that point they can go play League on Maidens or Runescape.

I have suggested that "Red status" only happens when you kill someone who isn't flagged or already red for 30 minutes stacking forever, is account wide, and the timer runs while offline.  Additionally when someone flags the flag stays up for 10 minutes after the flag comes off rather than 10 seconds after.  Then have a stacking death penalty in PvP, first few stacks no penalty applied, then when you release to node you would incure a penalty of 0.0001%, next death 0.001%, 0.01%, 0.1%, 1%, 2% and so on not applied when releasing to town, if you are over the 2% XP penalty and you release to town you get ported to a different region at random and your horse comes with you, the debuff can also be negated by using a pearl item or if the outfit death penalty procs.  If you release to node and you don't have XP available to spend on your PvP death penalty then it gives you a warning that you have a chance of breaking crystals, if you do not have any crystals to break it has a chance of down grading gear.  Alternately if you do not have the XP to pay the death penalty the release to node is greyed out.  Debuff is cleared when swapping channels red status is not.  Duels, GvG, in the desert, and nodewars obviously do not apply this debuff.  "gaining karma" reduces the red timer from anywhere between 0.1 to 1 second per kill depending on mob strength.

If you can't out smart, out perform, or outlast your opponent you need to just leave or accept splitting the mobs.  This IS NOT AN ARENA.

Being STRONG is about peristance and playing smart.  If you can Karma Bomb, Zerg, or even annoy an opponet into leaving, you are the STRONGER opponent and deserve the area.  (According to the PVPers mindset and Pearl Abyss).

It's survival of the FITTEST

not

Survival of the Duel

BDO is about dominating your opponent.  Taking control of territory.  It's not going to be easy.  It might not be pretty.

This is WAR.  (as they would say in Lineage II)

This actually seems like a really interesting idea. I like the idea that you get ported to another area as like a semi-cd period. 

This is some of the stupidest, most twisted, childish greifer logic I have ever seen. Using underhanded tactics is not strength, it is the explicit lack of strength. Someone who is strong wouldn't NEED to resort to karmabombing, therefore you MUST  be the weaker actor if you must resort to those tactics to win.

You are not strong for cheating.

Sorry to hear you can't handle the truth.  "Using underhanded tactics is not strength"? Oh really?  If anything is to be considered "underhanded tactics" mob feeding would certainly belong in that category.

ALL is fair in LOVE & WAR

That simple statement holds true as a foundation to what the rules actually are ;)

If you want to claim it's cheating then you will have to establish exactly what rule is being broken.  Because the answer is NONE.  Thus you must acquit.

The Chewbacca defense wins again.

Thoughtout modern history it is never the most muscle brain that wins battles and wars. It was always the more intelligent and wise that do. Look at the strongest nations throughout both World Wars. They fell, not because they lacked strength. But because their leaders lacked wisdom and tactics.

I'm sorry to say just because you don't agree with a tactic. Don't make it cheating. Look at all the Sea Monster Hunters, Mappers, and Guild Payout exploiters. All used what conventional players would considered cheating. Yet in most situations they came out hugely on top. Lets not even talk about the big spenders. Who spends $100,000s just to get the gear required to become gods against most of the playerbase. I don't see you crying about those extremely questionable tactics!

You are not looking for what's fair and just. You, like most on these forums. Are just looking to push wants convenient only to yourself. So lets drop the act ok.

Well stated and very good points.  This is a Player Vs Player game.

Lets take a look at another side.  I ran into an area and started clearing mobs which was already occupied.  That player flagged up several times and died every time achieving no kills.  Did I really deserve the grind spot for this behavior?  If you have empathy or reason you might think this was a terrible thing to do.  Even selfish, bullying.

According to the PVPers and Pearl Abyss.  I clearly did the RIGHT THING in that case.

Personally, I think it was diplorable. 

This is once more getting away from the original topic, I understand it is something that is quite easy to get off-topic. 

"Karma bombing" is the issue here, the fact people can take off their gear to abuse this broken mechanic, where they should only lose 10-30k karma people intentionally "bomb" people's karma, causing them to lose 120-130k karma. 

This is not intentional, and this is definitely not how the game is meant to be played. Hence, we would like to see a fix to this issue. 

This is not about any other issue than that, and I know it is very easy to get off-topic, I have been baited into it myself. I ask that we get this back on topic, and discuss possible fixes for this 'glitch/problem'.