Did I say any class should play like that? Do you sit in my head to know what I think besides what I wrote? I support solution number 2 which is turning some sas  into fgs on classes that are too sa heavy esp those with grabs which solves the issue of having a chosen few classes that can perma rotate sa into pressing e on cooldown. It also gives openings to non grab classes which is a way better solution than giving everyone a grab. The only "issue" with that is people who are alergic to learning the game would have to do that and they don't like it it seems.

I'm happy to support this solution only with the addition that 360 block (warrior/valk/nova) is removed to be either FG or SA only.

Otherwise the solution is pointless because non-grab classes still don't have a gap to exploit while you play your block->grab rotation.

Grabbing is the most powerful of the status ailments, and since there are so many variables due to it, the intention is to make sure to control this part.

There goes that false argument that grabs aren't one of the most powerful cc moves in PvP. The denial on that was crazy

Yep, to all these people in denial, pearl abyss just confirmed you're in denial.

Give everyone grabs, or remove grabs entirely.

You misunderstand, by stating 'it's not really about sorcs' I was stating that sorcs are not the only classes without a grab. There are classes that can't counter grabs with iframes or range. Though I guess if you think it's so simple to play around it, you wont mind others getting it surely.

The worst part about grabs is that getting grabbed never feels like a difference in skill.

No matter how you state it, most players won't get ran down by a zerk, get grabbed and say 'yes, I couldn't outrun a zerk but maybe if I get a little better..'. No, most players just see a monkey running at them and tearing them apart and then blame the game for getting grabbed from 5 feet away and being stuck in a grab even though they pressed V.

Strange, you read the same words than us but see something else. 

Pearl Abyss simply confirmed it's powerful. They also confirmed that giving it to grabless classes would mean reducing their other strengths.

You read, you cherrypick, you interpret. Proven. 

As we said. You want a grab, you'll lose something else. Because classes are not supposed to keep piling up strengths, and that's the real problem. 

So, is the Zerk problem coming from the grab, or from all of its added strengths? 

Must I really repeat myself. It is not about the class it is about the mechanic. Do I have to make an example with striker or something

No need to repeat, grab is merely one tool. But go on, make an example with striker and be sure to show us that grab is its only strength. 

If losing sa on block on warrior is properly compensated with sa movement and/or iframes then I am all for it. I would just like to point out that in order to get grabbed from q block you have to walk in front of the warrior who at the moment of blocking remains stationary at which point it is a skill issue just saying.

Why would I say grab is the only strength of striker?

Strange, you read the same words than us but see something else. 

Pearl Abyss simply confirmed it's powerful. They also confirmed that giving it to grabless classes would mean reducing their other strengths.

You read, you cherrypick, you interpret. Proven. 

As we said. You want a grab, you'll lose something else. Because classes are not supposed to keep piling up strengths, and that's the real problem. 

So, is the Zerk problem coming from the grab, or from all of its added strengths?

I think that, between all the proposed solutions, giving other ways to break guards, along with giving more FG than SA, would be more efficient and allow to keep the initial concept of the classes.

Giving grabs to every class and reduce strengths would probably kill the concept of the class and create an absurd simplification of classes.