Yes the absurd simplification of classes. How about the absurd simplification of pvp that already exists. If you're not playing a meta class that is either overtuned or has utility then your class is dead. If you're going to kill classes so everyone is forced to play a select set of classes, then you've already achieved a pseudo simplification of classes.

You think it already exists, OK. Does that mean devs should push it even more?

Above all if it kills the identity of several classes in the process? 

The only absurd thing here is the excessive focus on grab ONLY. 

AAAAAaand Ad Personam. Nothing better than attacking me for having a grab class?

Just read PeaceInChaos' opinion once more, and I dare you to say that he mention grab as the only problem, or even the main one : 

https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/Forum/ForumTopic/Detail?_topicNo=24952&_page=7&_opinionNo=108565

Point made, you're a dishonest sophist.

All quotes, all demonstrations are in this topic and the previous one. You simply repeated what was already wrong and you expect us to lose time AGAIN with you. 

Just read again :

https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/Forum/ForumTopic/Detail?_topicNo=24952&_page=1

Sure, let devs judge. As of they didn't already do it. XD

You can have Kunos grab i will take your damage any day. Awaken kuno with sorc damage an iframes oh man we would be removed from the game in a week lmao

Also claudia just remember we arent the ones who complained in rbf about grab when you got one shot by a archer an still said you died to a grab after killing like 6 people... Even though peoples grabs failed on you multiple times including my own. Succ sorc has issues your sorc does not. Awaken sorc is busted an you know it. Well idk about after changes but im pretty sure sorc can still shred through fgs and one tap people through SA.

Am I reading this right?  ...Grabs are annoying, they reward Packet Spoofers, & are just plain Imba in general 1v1 while somehow also for whatever reason useless in PvE, and you want MORE grabs taking up our skill trees?  

Who's missing the point here?  IF everyone else seems like the Problem to you, then maybe there's an issue with your own expectations?

Still stating no facts,

Still not refuting anything,

still nothing based from you.

You probably didn't even read.

Low effort troll with a huge ego that only wants last comment.

Its not emotions, its boredom. But actually thinking about it, its worth farming your responses so that this thread stays alive and gets moved up to the adventurer feedback bored or at least gets attention. Lets keep it going.

When the dust settles, the thread shows that I've pulled stats contributing to a healthy discussion about the game and that you're a high ranked sage player with low social skill demonstrating the maturity of a child resorting only to personal attacks instead.

thats borderline idiotic to even consider.

then my class that can move reliably and iframe once every 7 secs needs to get like million partial iframes on my damage skills jsut to have a chance to even use my skills without turning into a soccer ball 

They can add grab to all classes, but they would STILL need to make actual balance adjustments on protections of several classes as well. Also musa/mae grab? Kinda crazy. But for sure all the crazy super armor added on last week patch are exagerated, look at succ zerk for example, is the ultimate dumb class 100% protected no stam consumption protected cc. Adding grabs doesnt solve the issue, otherwise everyone is abandoning cc to look for a grab since it will be hella easier.

Grabbing is the most powerful of the status ailments, and since there are so many variables due to it, the intention is to make sure to control this part.

There goes that false argument that grabs aren't one of the most powerful cc moves in PvP. The denial on that was crazy

Lets make every class the same what a wonderfull blanket solution! Those have a history of working well in BDO balancing... oh wait...