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Last Edit : Jan 27, 2024, 19:11 (UTC)
# 91
On: Jan 27, 2024, 18:57 (UTC), Written by RengerEl

So you only need 30+ people with t10 dooms, 20+ people with compasses, and a full 100 people. Ok, you got me, that's probably standard for every guild that does bosses and still has mercs. You also would obviously never run out of black cannonballs if you bypass the towers every time as well.

Hello RengerEI,

If you have never done any khan with a coalition that has more than 100 guildes inside, you can't understand.....
You keep talking about things you don't know... sad...

Most of the people who are doing khan have an alt on oquilla and place their main char on the first boss.
like Delia said, when the organisation is done well, it takes only 20 to 30 min to do all bosses.
At least, your word will mean something if and only if you were part of a coallition like that.
I guess you are one of those people who think they know it all =)

Last Edit : Jan 27, 2024, 19:28 (UTC)
# 92
On: Jan 27, 2024, 19:11 (UTC), Written by ReedLee23

Hello RengerEI,

If you have never done any khan with a coalition that has more than 100 guildes inside, you can't understand.....
You keep talking about things you don't know... sad...

Most of the people who are doing khan have an alt on oquilla and place their main char on the first boss.
like Delia said, when the organisation is done well, it takes only 20 to 30 min to do all bosses.
At least, your word will mean something if and only if you were part of a coallition like that.
I guess you are one of those people who think they know it all =)

You get how you just exposed what an exploit this was.

The guilds I've joined ya took like an hour with 25-30 ppl cuz Khan takes 20m you do have most have alts there then you waiting to everyone travels to the other bosses. Even then it was fun and decent money plus chance at 5b lightstones or Khans heart and barter mats/ccs.

Now I read this crap how you could do it everyday and how it is for fun and group content and with buffs i bet a lot more money but that had nothing to do with it. 

I'm sure if they garmoth quest this to you can only get loot off 1 of ea boss a week w a quest you all will keep doing it 5 6 7 times a wk.

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Last Edit : Jan 27, 2024, 19:49 (UTC)
# 93
On: Jan 27, 2024, 19:28 (UTC), Written by JR88

You get how you just exposed what an exploit this was.

The guilds I've joined ya took like an hour with 25-30 ppl cuz Khan takes 20m you do have most have alts there then you waiting to everyone travels to the other bosses. Even then it was fun and decent money plus chance at 5b lightstones or Khans heart and barter mats/ccs.

Now I read this crap how you could do it everyday and how it is for fun and group content and with buffs i bet a lot more money but that had nothing to do with it. 

I'm sure if they garmoth quest this to you can only get loot off 1 of ea boss a week w a quest you all will keep doing it 5 6 7 times a wk.

We've been doing khan for as long as khan arrived in BDO, they change loot at the end of 2023, and several weeks ago, they added more loots. Do you really think that before the rework of bosses loot, we were doing this for money? Can't you just imagine that this side of BDO is enjoyable?

Last Edit : Jan 27, 2024, 20:00 (UTC)
# 94

You break everything that's good about BDO. Going to do bosses in other guilds allows you to play in groups and between several guilds

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Last Edit : Jan 27, 2024, 20:12 (UTC)
# 95
On: Jan 27, 2024, 19:49 (UTC), Written by ReedLee23

We've been doing khan for as long as khan arrived in BDO, they change loot at the end of 2023, and several weeks ago, they added more loots. Do you really think that before the rework of bosses loot, we were doing this for money? Can't you just imagine that this side of BDO is enjoyable?

Sure, I enjoyed it too. I have read this thread all week and just think you aren't doing yourself any favors telling everyone you can kill all bosses in 20-30m and have a caolition of guilds and like 100 plus ppl doing this 5 6 times a week when most guilds just do it once if at all. It sure sounds like unintended and a borderline exploit and doubt PA gonna backtrack after reading this. 

I wish I knew. I would of loved to do Khan 5 times a wk for easy ccs and mats but I sure as hell wouldn't be on here bragging I did.

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Last Edit : Jan 27, 2024, 20:14 (UTC)
# 96
On: Jan 27, 2024, 19:28 (UTC), Written by JR88

You get how you just exposed what an exploit this was.

The guilds I've joined ya took like an hour with 25-30 ppl cuz Khan takes 20m you do have most have alts there then you waiting to everyone travels to the other bosses. Even then it was fun and decent money plus chance at 5b lightstones or Khans heart and barter mats/ccs.

Now I read this crap how you could do it everyday and how it is for fun and group content and with buffs i bet a lot more money but that had nothing to do with it. 

I'm sure if they garmoth quest this to you can only get loot off 1 of ea boss a week w a quest you all will keep doing it 5 6 7 times a wk.

How is this an exploit when all that's different from regular guilds is extra organization? Extra coordination? It's the same thing as saying someone with low gear should be getting the same silver as someone who's put in the effort to upgrade their sheet ap, their crystals, lightstones. We've been doing this for far longer than just the past month, it's not something that was created over night simply due to more money. If only brainlessly grinding the same spot for hours made decent silver in this game, you'd have no BDO to play tomorrow. It needs to balance solo grinding, lifeskilling for the CM and party content (which is what guild bosses are). 

I've been doing daily merc runs every day for the past year. The group of people im with existed for about 5 years before I joined them. Until recently, I was making 2.5-3 bil a week. Was that good money? No, I could make more than that by doing a couple of hours of sailing. I could do more than that by grinding a couple of hours in at whatever spot I wanted with any of my tuvala alts. I could do more than that by sniper hunting for a couple of hours in LoML. Guess what? 8 bil per week is still a drop in the ocean compared to the outrageous amounts of money you can do by grinding other content in this game for way less time. The money isn't the issue here, its the activity that guild bosses provided in the past and have now received a significant boost. Take away the ability to merc every day and watch PVE guild content activity plummet. 

The guilds around me have seen an increase in new members (and new adventurers!!) like crazy since the new change. Guilds that arent focused on PVP and NWs are more active than ever probably. It brings people in because now spending 30 mins to an hour with another guild is worth the time, unlike before financially speaking. That equals more activity in the game, more afk people for pvp-ers to kill, more money spent in pearl store. You cut their tree, the game will start to shrivel up and become some solo game where the only interaction with another player is "dfs" because leaving your grind spot means there's no other way to make money.

Last Edit : Jan 27, 2024, 20:32 (UTC)
# 97

Pearl Abyss love to ruin the People Fun , if something work good , they are totally go straight to the point to kill it so people won't be happy.

Last Edit : Jan 27, 2024, 21:19 (UTC)
# 98
On: Jan 27, 2024, 20:12 (UTC), Written by BewareTheDepths

How is this an exploit when all that's different from regular guilds is extra organization? Extra coordination? It's the same thing as saying someone with low gear should be getting the same silver as someone who's put in the effort to upgrade their sheet ap, their crystals, lightstones. We've been doing this for far longer than just the past month, it's not something that was created over night simply due to more money. If only brainlessly grinding the same spot for hours made decent silver in this game, you'd have no BDO to play tomorrow. It needs to balance solo grinding, lifeskilling for the CM and party content (which is what guild bosses are). 

I've been doing daily merc runs every day for the past year. The group of people im with existed for about 5 years before I joined them. Until recently, I was making 2.5-3 bil a week. Was that good money? No, I could make more than that by doing a couple of hours of sailing. I could do more than that by grinding a couple of hours in at whatever spot I wanted with any of my tuvala alts. I could do more than that by sniper hunting for a couple of hours in LoML. Guess what? 8 bil per week is still a drop in the ocean compared to the outrageous amounts of money you can do by grinding other content in this game for way less time. The money isn't the issue here, its the activity that guild bosses provided in the past and have now received a significant boost. Take away the ability to merc every day and watch PVE guild content activity plummet. 

The guilds around me have seen an increase in new members (and new adventurers!!) like crazy since the new change. Guilds that arent focused on PVP and NWs are more active than ever probably. It brings people in because now spending 30 mins to an hour with another guild is worth the time, unlike before financially speaking. That equals more activity in the game, more afk people for pvp-ers to kill, more money spent in pearl store. You cut their tree, the game will start to shrivel up and become some solo game where the only interaction with another player is "dfs" because leaving your grind spot means there's no other way to make money.

The exploit is Guild bosses were most likely intended to be done by guilds once a week or there would be no limit. You guys found a loophole grats. It is absoulutly a drop in the bucket compared to what you need to progress in BDO. They probably allowed it before the buffs. Now that 20-30 minutes  is like 1b plus just in gold bars plus chance at Khans heart 5b lightstones like 1k cc if you sell all the drops and chance at 2b crystals so they nerfed it.

They could easily of limited it to 3 times a week per boss per person instead of this. Maybe that would of been better if they thought it was too much money. 

The question really becomes do you think hopping guilds 7 times a wk is what BDo intended for Guild bosses. I don't

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Last Edit : Jan 27, 2024, 21:35 (UTC)
# 99
On: Jan 27, 2024, 20:41 (UTC), Written by JR88

The exploit is Guild bosses were most likely intended to be done by guilds once a week or there would be no limit. You guys found a loophole grats. It is absoulutly a drop in the bucket compared to what you need to progress in BDO. They probably allowed it before the buffs. Now that 20-30 minutes  is like 1b plus just in gold bars plus chance at Khans heart 5b lightstones like 1k cc if you sell all the drops and chance at 2b crystals so they nerfed it.

They could easily of limited it to 3 times a week per boss per person instead of this. Maybe that would of been better if they thought it was too much money. 

The question really becomes do you think hopping guilds 7 times a wk is what BDo intended for Guild bosses. I don't

There's no question there. There was no reward for hopping guilds 7 times a week before. 300-400 mil?? Nobody was doing it for money. Khan's heart doesnt sell anymore, everyone and their mom has at least 1 if not multiple already given they gave it for free and increased the drop rate. 

Again, if the problem here is as you put it "1b plus just in gold bars plus chance at Khans heart 5b lightstones like 1k cc if you sell all the drops and chance at 2b crystals" just lower the rewards? It's that simple. We were happy with less than 500 mil + a small chance at Khan's heart if it meant some crow coins for the sailors and keeping in touch with ingame friends from other guilds that you would otherwise not really meet in the open world.

My guess is that you and the other people in this thread are upset you don't have clans to take you in every day. No sane person in the world argues AGAINST good rewards. You're salty people, salty at how others managed to tie connections with different groups of people and you cant benefit from that so you're unhappy with them finally giving us party content do-ers some silver. Getting on the good side of communities is more difficult than grinding the same spot for 8 hours a day, isnt it? It's too difficult to accept that content doesnt have to reach every player, doesn't have to benefit everyone. You're not here because they buffed guild rewards, you're here because people found other ways to make money that YOU and the 2-3 other people in this thread cant profit from. We should be able to enjoy different things, this isnt a full time job. 

Last Edit : Jan 27, 2024, 22:22 (UTC)
# 100
On: Jan 27, 2024, 21:35 (UTC), Written by BewareTheDepths

There's no question there. There was no reward for hopping guilds 7 times a week before. 300-400 mil?? Nobody was doing it for money. Khan's heart doesnt sell anymore, everyone and their mom has at least 1 if not multiple already given they gave it for free and increased the drop rate. 

Again, if the problem here is as you put it "1b plus just in gold bars plus chance at Khans heart 5b lightstones like 1k cc if you sell all the drops and chance at 2b crystals" just lower the rewards? It's that simple. We were happy with less than 500 mil + a small chance at Khan's heart if it meant some crow coins for the sailors and keeping in touch with ingame friends from other guilds that you would otherwise not really meet in the open world.

My guess is that you and the other people in this thread are upset you don't have clans to take you in every day. No sane person in the world argues AGAINST good rewards. You're salty people, salty at how others managed to tie connections with different groups of people and you cant benefit from that so you're unhappy with them finally giving us party content do-ers some silver. Getting on the good side of communities is more difficult than grinding the same spot for 8 hours a day, isnt it? It's too difficult to accept that content doesnt have to reach every player, doesn't have to benefit everyone. You're not here because they buffed guild rewards, you're here because people found other ways to make money that YOU and the 2-3 other people in this thread cant profit from. We should be able to enjoy different things, this isnt a full time job. 

Oh yes I'm upset and salty because I have a diff opinion then you. You are def not salty because now you can only go 3 times a week instead of 7. Supposedly don't be in a guild and join/leave guilds and thats still 24h cd so do that maybe.

The 400m and khans heart was hard to get and bunch of crow coins when cc were much harder to get and lunar and solar stones ya that was decent money and def worth going 7 times back then too. Ever since they added lightstones and I'd see many get and have gotten 5b ones going only once per week before. Now its way more rewarding so they nerfed one way to go 7 times a wk. Things get nerfed all the time.

I already said I would of gone 7 times if i knew but I would of known it was kinda exploity and wouldn't be throwing a tantrum now. The 72h change is bad. The should of fixed in a diff way but plz stop with the it's for friends that i speed run bosses in 7 diff guilds and now i'll never talk to these guys again stuff. The Khan's still somehow sell even tho every1 and their mother has one. Legit all 3 kinds have sold since yesterday. 

I'm not arguing against good rewards. I'm saying taking advantage of a system to get more rewards then others is the issue.

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