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Update Awakening Witch Kit
Jan 26, 2024, 16:43 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Jan 28, 2024, 05:01 (UTC)
# 1

Family Name: Feathery
Region (NA/EU): NA
Suggestions/Comments: Due to the high cooldowns on her movement, relatively low burst damage, poor comboing due to lack of downsmash, short duration of buffs, lack of guard break or grab, and overall fragility, 
Awakening Witch has no niche. She is bad in large scale. She is bad in small scale. She is bad in 1v1. She is horrible at buffing and healing compared to valk and shai.

Awakening witch needs reworks/improvements to her movement and an answer to sa block + grab spam which is becoming an increasingly large portion of the roster. She has a total of 4 movement skills, 1 of which can basically be ignored because of the absurd cooldown. ONLY the side dash can be used during cooldown, and it is entirely unprotected when doing so.
- 4 second cd short sa side dash (Flow: Magical Evasion)
- 7 second cd barely farther sa back dash (Elementalization)
- 7 second cd iframe dash that you have to wait 10 seconds if you want the full distance (Teleport / Ultimate: Teleport)
- 3 minute cd iframe that shows people where you are going long before you get there and cannot be turned or redirected (Archwizardry: Mass Teleport)

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Trying to keep things as simple and easy to implement as possible with proposed changes, I would suggest:
- Remove the cooldown of her short range super armor side dash (Flow: Magical Evasion)
- Make it so using her side dash from pre-awake (Magical Evasion) instead casts the awake version and puts her into awake stance (Flow: Magical Evasion)
- Add downsmash and guard shred to Yoke of Ordeal which is a relatively slow lower damage skill at present
- Add a w+q sa while moving dash to the awake kit (copy paste maegu's w+q but with a lightning visual effect)

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While this does seemingly add a lot of super armor at glance, the class itself is heavily forward guard dependent on attacks, with only 2 of her 8 awakening attacks being super armor attacks, while the rest are either forward guard or unprotected, and many of these skills animation lock her. This leaves PLENTY of room for people to still get behind and cc the class (technically 2 and a half if you want to effectively stun yourself by slow casting barrage of lightning.)


The added guard shred and down smash on yoke will give it a purpose other than stalling for time for your long cd movement, and make some of her incredibly 1 sided match ups very slightly less 1 sided.


The added q dash would give a second engage skill that is not iframe and leaves a large gap in protection at the end of the dash, meaning it cannot be used recklessly.

The pre-awake side dash transferring to awake stance would encourage slightly more use of the lower damage largely unprotected pre-awake kit.

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Notably, these suggestions DO NOT:
- add a any iframes to her kit

- make her into a perma sa class
- add a bunch of long range dash spam to her kit

- add vertical movement to her kit

- add a grab to her kit
- add durability to her kit
- add more healing to her kit
- add damage to her kit

- improve her party buffs/healing

She won't be top fragging or become unkillable or be 1 shotting from render distance or anything like that with these changes, but she will at least be able hold her ground slightly better than she does now, and be a slightly less free kill, and with minimal required effort from developers to make these changes.

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At this point, nearly all classes have 1 of 3 things for movement:
-Side dash or equivelant skills that are always sa and include an iframe when not on cooldown. (like tamer sorc sage musa maehwa lahn ....)
-Side dash or equivelant skills that are iframe or sa, have a short 1-2 second cooldown, and have multiple charges of them (like valk woosa mystic striker ....)
-Several protected, often iframe, movement skills at relatively low cooldowns with a variety of inputs to access them (like drak, corsair, zerker, ranger, guardian, maegu ....)

Nearly all classes also have 1 or more ways to deal with block spam
-Grabs (like most classes at this point, and every class that can permanently hold block + super armor ....)
-Guard Gauge damage (like corsair, musa, maehwa, dark knight ....)
-Jumping to a target's back to try to perform a cc (like maegu, dark knight, ninja, kuno, sorc,  ....)
-High mobility with high damage (like musa maehwa dk sage archer ranger ....)
-Skills that ignore block to cc (like awake woosa mystic corsair ....)

There is no excuse for leaving awakening witch the way that she is. She has long since been power crept out of the mid-short range bunker/attrition niche she was originally designed for. It is time to update her kit.

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OwlLady
Last Edit : Jan 26, 2024, 16:54 (UTC)
# 2

Honestly I wish they would have merged Woosa and Maegu into Witch. Rather than come out with two more classes we simply do not need. Woosa and Maegu just feel like an updated version of Witch. Which is a bit insulting. Rather than fixing or updating the older classes they come out with new and improved versions.

Last Edit : Jan 26, 2024, 16:57 (UTC)
# 3

I used to love playing my witch she was my first character I actually enjoyed. she was good in a party and being able to heal everyone was a big plus, but at some point I feel like she fell off and I just couldn't stick with her.

Last Edit : Jan 26, 2024, 17:10 (UTC)
# 4

For some context, this is how our MOBILE version plays. Notice how she has a lot more ranged/line attacks as well as better movement and what looks like a lightning themed rift chain.

I would love if they just gave us this, but I know that would probably take a lot more dev work than adding a couple effect flags to a few skills, changing a cooldown number, and copy pasting a skill from another class.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKPf2Yj6i0Y

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OwlLady
Last Edit : Jan 26, 2024, 17:14 (UTC)
# 5

Awake witch dash not even being an iframe is kinda shit and the absence of split tp makes the class really bad to move around on.

Last Edit : Jan 26, 2024, 17:19 (UTC)
# 6
On: Jan 26, 2024, 17:05 (UTC), Written by Feathery

For some context, this is how our MOBILE version plays. Notice how she as a lot more ranged/line attacks as well as better movement and what looks like a lightning themed rift chain.

I would love if they just gave us this, but I know that would probably take a lot more dev work than adding a couple effect flags to a few skills, changing a cooldown number, and copy pasting a skill from another class.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKPf2Yj6i0Y

A lot of the mobile classes look better than ours. It's upsetting. Mobile Witch is night and day different from what we have. It's like, "This is what you could of had, but nah." Mobile versions are what we should have! Pearl Abyss really needs to stop neglecting the older classes on PC! Stop giving it to 'new' classes and the mobile versions!

Last Edit : Jan 26, 2024, 17:36 (UTC)
# 7
On: Jan 26, 2024, 16:54 (UTC), Written by Nissa

Honestly I wish they would have merged Woosa and Maegu into Witch. Rather than come out with two more classes we simply do not need. Woosa and Maegu just feel like an updated version of Witch. Which is a bit insulting. Rather than fixing or updating the older classes they come out with new and improved versions.

this is what this company does. we give feedback on how to fix old classes they release new class with these solutions and ideas. its borderline disgusting and is mega disrespectful to people who are dedicated to their old classes.

Last Edit : Jan 26, 2024, 18:32 (UTC)
# 8
On: Jan 26, 2024, 17:36 (UTC), Written by WhySoSeeryus

this is what this company does. we give feedback on how to fix old classes they release new class with these solutions and ideas. its borderline disgusting and is mega disrespectful to people who are dedicated to their old classes.

This kind of seems unique to wiz and witch for the most part. Ninja, striker, mystic, valk, zerker, ranger, ect all these old classes have gotten impactful reworks/improvements, including to their movement kit. 

Wizard, and especially witch are unique in how left behind they are. Succ nova, sage(both specs), scholar, woosa, maegu, succ drak, succ corsair were all born from suggested wiz and witch awake changes while we get nothing.

Wizard has faired a bit better with their extra couple of move skills, grab, higher burst, and downsmashes, but witch has been completely left in the dust. People see a witch grinding as an open spot that already has the mechanics warmed up.

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OwlLady
Last Edit : Jan 26, 2024, 20:16 (UTC)
# 9

awa witch is: Strong in PvE, wanted in any pvp guid, has heals has PA, has ranged dps. mby witch will be better in crimson desert

Shai = Buffer
witch / wiz = healer / dps
valk = bomber / frontline support

Last Edit : Jan 26, 2024, 21:02 (UTC)
# 10
On: Jan 26, 2024, 20:16 (UTC), Written by TYRANTxoxo

awa witch is: Strong in PvE, wanted in any pvp guid, has heals has PA, has ranged dps. mby witch will be better in crimson desert

Shai = Buffer
witch / wiz = healer / dps
valk = bomber / frontline support

she lacks sa healing like valk and shai. she lacks short cd movement like valk and shai. she lacks durability like valk and shai. she lacks burst like wizard. she lacks wizard's extra base durability and damage stats, she lack's wizard's extra movement and grab, hwe buffs are way less potent than valk or shai.

in the current game, all awake witch is is what if wizard was completely innept and had nothing going for it outside pve. every class is meant to have at least 1 pvp niche.

Edit: also, this is about pvp, not pve. pve is irrelevant to the discussion

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OwlLady
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