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Update Awakening Witch Kit
Jan 26, 2024, 16:43 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Jan 30, 2024, 20:53 (UTC)
# 31
On: Jan 27, 2024, 19:52 (UTC), Written by Despins

My friend, I will assume that you play Valkyrie from your profile. Perhaps Awakening Valkyrie. 

When looking at OP's suggestions, they go as the following and are far from excessive when all considered:
OP wants:
1. Being able to transition smoothly from Staff to Sphera.  Which is definitively reasonable after months of census amongst experienced players from other classes.
2. Magical Evasion SA dash / hops to not have cooldown instead of the current 4sec.  Which is the biggest request, and the main one IMO.
3.  A really underwhelming buff request on Yoke of Ordeal.
4. Not going to comment about the W+Q Meagu thing (if that's your concern, spell it out; but I don't think it's the core of the feedback)

Now, as a Valkyrie person, I find it strange that what was good for you in relation to your movement combo is suddenly unnacceptable for someone else. I certainly remember when you guys had a ton of gap re-reboot, now that it's gone, you'd wish to gatekeep it?

On top of that, you go in an attitude where you say that Awakening Witch players looking to PvP with her should reroll, yet, you're against a set of changes that could help the Awakening Witch. Make up your mind. 

No, this is how I took their comment. If you want to PvP on caster just hang up the gloves for PvP in BDO because we the majority of overtuned grab-bot super mobile high burst tanky classes will shout you down till you turn BDO off and go PvP as a caster in some other MMO that won't grief you. 

Honestly, I think all of us Witch and Wizards should concede to the demends of the majority since the devs did. And just turn BDO off when we want to PvP. Because what BDO actually needs is even less PvPers. 

Also as of 6 hours ago I as a Witch main, I've completely sold all of my gear garmoth heart and vell heart that could be sold. Please buy my stuff off of the marketplace that is listed at minimal price. I'm done trying to argue with people on brokenly overtuned classe that just want to gatekeep the PvP scene. Screw it let them have it all to themselves. I AM DONE!

Also if you people on NA can sell me your TET Manos gear for max pre-order. I would highly appericiate it. As I have now become another of the majority of PvPers in general who will laugh at the meme that is BDO's PvP scene from afar.

Last Edit : Jan 31, 2024, 22:46 (UTC)
# 32
On: Jan 30, 2024, 20:51 (UTC), Written by EgoAdAstra

No, this is how I took their comment. If you want to PvP on caster just hang up the gloves for PvP in BDO because we the majority of overtuned grab-bot super mobile high burst tanky classes will shout you down till you turn BDO off and go PvP as a caster in some other MMO that won't grief you. 

Honestly, I think all of us Witch and Wizards should concede to the demends of the majority since the devs did. And just turn BDO off when we want to PvP. Because what BDO actually needs is even less PvPers. 

Also as of 6 hours ago I as a Witch main, I've completely sold all of my gear garmoth heart and vell heart that could be sold. Please buy my stuff off of the marketplace that is listed at minimal price. I'm done trying to argue with people on brokenly overtuned classe that just want to gatekeep the PvP scene. Screw it let them have it all to themselves. I AM DONE!

Also if you people on NA can sell me your TET Manos gear for max pre-order. I would highly appericiate it. As I have now become another of the majority of PvPers in general who will laugh at the meme that is BDO's PvP scene from afar.

We can at least try to get some changes. If classes in far better spots, like awake mystic, can get significant changes, so can we.

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OwlLady
Last Edit : Jan 31, 2024, 23:23 (UTC)
# 33
On: Jan 31, 2024, 22:46 (UTC), Written by Feathery

We can at least try to get some changes. If classes in far better spots, like awake mystic, can get significant changes, so can we.

I stop deluding myself that these Devs will make Witch viable. These devs and the content creators don't want Witch to be viable. So I don't see the point to have hope, when it's futile. Better to spend your energy on something else. Like getting good in a PvP game that actually have an popular and active PvP scene. LMAO

Last Edit : Feb 1, 2024, 06:38 (UTC)
# 34

It would take so little effort for them to make the class at least playable in pvp.

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OwlLady
Last Edit : Feb 1, 2024, 07:01 (UTC)
# 35
On: Feb 1, 2024, 06:38 (UTC), Written by Feathery

It would take so little effort for them to make the class at least playable in pvp.

See things like these have nothing to do with effort and time spent balancing. It's as simple as the developers have some form a bais against casters. And in their minds the casters should mostly be useless in this game and at best, middle of the line in a few areas. Sorry to tell you this, but the fat lady has already sung for us. It's over just lay your cards down and fold. 

If you feel the NEED to continue to PvP in BDO. Then you are going to have to play one of the classes that the developers have decided to be functional for PvP. Or you'll have to be happy with being fodder for players that do play those classes. Or find a way to get to hardcap gear so you can gearcheck the bottom 80% of the playerbase.

Last Edit : Feb 1, 2024, 21:12 (UTC)
# 36
On: Feb 1, 2024, 07:00 (UTC), Written by EgoAdAstra

See things like these have nothing to do with effort and time spent balancing. It's as simple as the developers have some form a bais against casters. And in their minds the casters should mostly be useless in this game and at best, middle of the line in a few areas. Sorry to tell you this, but the fat lady has already sung for us. It's over just lay your cards down and fold. 

If you feel the NEED to continue to PvP in BDO. Then you are going to have to play one of the classes that the developers have decided to be functional for PvP. Or you'll have to be happy with being fodder for players that do play those classes. Or find a way to get to hardcap gear so you can gearcheck the bottom 80% of the playerbase.

I mean, these changes wouldn't even make them strong, just playable and still probably mid at best with how fragile the class is.

Edit: there is no reason awake witch shouldn't at LEAST be brought up to the standard of awake wizard.

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OwlLady
Last Edit : Feb 1, 2024, 21:17 (UTC)
# 37
On: Feb 1, 2024, 21:07 (UTC), Written by Feathery

I mean, these changes wouldn't even make them strong, just playable and still probably mid at best with how fragile the class is.

Edit: there is no reason awake witch shouldn't at LEAST be brought up to the standard of awake wizard.

hahahahahahahahahahaha my man, if thats your bar u will be very dissapointed. when u figure out grass aint greener on this side.

Last Edit : Feb 1, 2024, 21:46 (UTC)
# 38
On: Feb 1, 2024, 21:17 (UTC), Written by WhySoSeeryus

hahahahahahahahahahaha my man, if thats your bar u will be very dissapointed. when u figure out grass aint greener on this side.

I never said wizard awake was in an amazing spot, but it is noticeably better than witch in pvp.

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OwlLady
Last Edit : Feb 2, 2024, 00:21 (UTC)
# 39

On woosa, you get back to back to back move skills with about a 2 second cd that are iframe into sa

On Maegu, you have several dashes on relatively short cooldowns thast you can chain together

On Sage, you get no cooldown, long distance, invisible sa movement, except for when it is iframe instead

Lahn, musa, maehwa get no cooldown sa dashes that have iframe when not on cooldown

On Wizard, you get 2 additional protected movement skills and a more sa heavy kit, allowing you to chain them together to stay protected and not insta die to anything with a block jump or grab

Sorc and tamer get no cooldown iframe spam

Ranger gets several movement skills that are a mix of iframe and sa and on relatively low cooldowns while moving much farther

Succ drak has the same niche as us but more move skills and lower cooldowns

Scholar has a lot of different protected move skills on relatively short cooldowns

I could keep going, but I would be naming the whole roster save for shai.
All of these classes also either have a grab, block jump, or guard damage or a combination of the 3.

Awake Witch and shai are unique in being the only 2 classes with movement this bad and no way to deal with block classes.

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OwlLady
Last Edit : Feb 2, 2024, 00:49 (UTC)
# 40
On: Feb 2, 2024, 00:20 (UTC), Written by Feathery

On woosa, you get back to back to back move skills with about a 2 second cd that are iframe into sa

On Maegu, you have several dashes on relatively short cooldowns thast you can chain together

On Sage, you get no cooldown, long distance, invisible sa movement, except for when it is iframe instead

Lahn, musa, maehwa get no cooldown sa dashes that have iframe when not on cooldown

On Wizard, you get 2 additional protected movement skills and a more sa heavy kit, allowing you to chain them together to stay protected and not insta die to anything with a block jump or grab

Sorc and tamer get no cooldown iframe spam

Ranger gets several movement skills that are a mix of iframe and sa and on relatively low cooldowns while moving much farther

Succ drak has the same niche as us but more move skills and lower cooldowns

Scholar has a lot of different protected move skills on relatively short cooldowns

I could keep going, but I would be naming the whole roster save for shai.
All of these classes also either have a grab, block jump, or guard damage or a combination of the 3.

Awake Witch and shai are unique in being the only 2 classes with movement this bad and no way to deal with block classes.

You just have to come to terms this is the unrelenting game design philosophy these devs have for BDO. They beileve Witch has little to no place to be viable in PvP. Therefore Witch and to a lessor extent Wizard will more than likely always be bottom tier. At least until either the balance team change or the current devs class philosophy change. Which I do not see this happening anytime soon.

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