Yeah and since then a lot of the endgame loyal players that have been playing since launch have quit. And so did pretty much all of these 'pve players' PA so desperately tried to cater to that joined early summer. If that is your argument you have to try harder.

What does 'hardware kick' even mean? Grow up.

Brilliant 

Also hardware kick = IP ban and similar action so you can't just evade punishment by starting again.

real tho, that's why you don't put up a name like bd69 haha. Cuz when you wanna talk about serious stuff, nobody will take you serious.

I obv agree w/ the pvpers. There are easy ways to fix a dec system instead of destroying it. Otoh, the karma system / dec system / oW was pretty imbalanced in BDO to me. As I said in another thread, I like pvping. It's fun to win; it's fun to lose. But other than ego, there is no real gain. Pvp is the good part. It's kinda hard (for me) to be like yeahhh good pvp... now I can go back to grinding my spot ???

But yeah, a lot of games are watering down their pvp, which is sad. It's true that nobody wants to lose, but people can get used to it. There has to be a way to fix it, but yea... ur forum name.

But you know, 99% of the EU players have dynamic IPs? So a IP ban would last until they restart their router.

Yeah we get it. Sponsored by Nord VPN. And then you're found again through agent strings/fingerprinting because of the new account you made -probably through steam- and then you're gone again. Your proxy will not hide that. It isn't hard to catch.

Also laughs in HWID ban. Not even a factory reset will circumvent that.

That's from some person on a website, isn't it??  Not an official marketing document.  Secondly, when was it?  Third, having pvp available does not mean it's pvp focused.  It has lifeskilling too.  That it's not officially a "pvp focused" game doesn't mean that PA should punish players for using pvp mechanics however, or to make radical changes that alienate pvprs either.  It's a balance