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Ranged damage insanely broken
Feb 11, 2024, 04:52 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Feb 11, 2024, 04:52 (UTC)
# 1

As someone who has been doing all kinds of PvP since late 2018 I have never expeienced a more busted meta in the scene, most high end guilds have 50%ish of their ball as ranged damage and the mid end sit between 30-50%. In capped and uncapped content Awk Zerker, Succ Ranger, Archer and believe it or not Awk Corsair (one of the most slept on classes in the game), deal absolutly absured ammounts of damage and the skill required to play them (other than awk zerk) is abisamal. Other classes require/have much higher inputs, awareness, combos, less iframes, all to just get absolutly blown up by a ranged class pressing 2-4 buttons siting almost at render distance. Succ witch and wizard definitly dont have the damage but the buffs/heals and ranged AoE they provide is extremely suppressive and adding to the immense strength of the ranged meta.

Last Edit : Feb 11, 2024, 13:40 (UTC)
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Écrit le : 11 févr. 2024, 04:52 (UTC), par : kjchenko

As someone who has been doing all kinds of PvP since late 2018 I have never expeienced a more busted meta in the scene, most high end guilds have 50%ish of their ball as ranged damage and the mid end sit between 30-50%. In capped and uncapped content Awk Zerker, Succ Ranger, Archer and believe it or not Awk Corsair (one of the most slept on classes in the game), deal absolutly absured ammounts of damage and the skill required to play them (other than awk zerk) is abisamal. Other classes require/have much higher inputs, awareness, combos, less iframes, all to just get absolutly blown up by a ranged class pressing 2-4 buttons siting almost at render distance. Succ witch and wizard definitly dont have the damage but the buffs/heals and ranged AoE they provide is extremely suppressive and adding to the immense strength of the ranged meta.

Welcome to 2024 meta.

If you want to perform in mass PVP; just go awak Valk, Succ & Awak Drak & Succ Berserk, Succ Sage.
If you want to blast with range; Awak Zerk (also blast in melee), Succ Ranger, Archer, Succ Wizard.

If you want to 1 v 1 or small case; Succ & Awak Ninja, Succ & Awak Kuno, Awak Drak, Succ & Awak Striker, Succ Mystic, Awak Nova, Awak Lahn, Succ & Awak Hash, Succ & Awak Sage.

Rest is bis.

PA just overbuffs because why not. Some class or spec are totally left behind but they don't care.

Last Edit : Feb 12, 2024, 13:50 (UTC)
# 3
On: Feb 11, 2024, 04:52 (UTC), Written by kjchenko

As someone who has been doing all kinds of PvP since late 2018 I have never expeienced a more busted meta in the scene, most high end guilds have 50%ish of their ball as ranged damage and the mid end sit between 30-50%. In capped and uncapped content Awk Zerker, Succ Ranger, Archer and believe it or not Awk Corsair (one of the most slept on classes in the game), deal absolutly absured ammounts of damage and the skill required to play them (other than awk zerk) is abisamal. Other classes require/have much higher inputs, awareness, combos, less iframes, all to just get absolutly blown up by a ranged class pressing 2-4 buttons siting almost at render distance. Succ witch and wizard definitly dont have the damage but the buffs/heals and ranged AoE they provide is extremely suppressive and adding to the immense strength of the ranged meta.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZmLItRKkAY

you are playing wrong class if ranged is issue :D :D :D :D 

*yes its a poke at developers and their balance.

Last Edit : Feb 13, 2024, 17:05 (UTC)
# 4

Other than zerk a stiff breeze kills them, they have no CC no Grab.  If those ranged classes did not do excessive amounts of damage they would have nothing.  They ONLY deal damage that is it.  

Last Edit : Feb 14, 2024, 01:59 (UTC)
# 5
On: Feb 13, 2024, 17:05 (UTC), Written by FearlessLy

Other than zerk a stiff breeze kills them, they have no CC no Grab.  If those ranged classes did not do excessive amounts of damage they would have nothing.  They ONLY deal damage that is it.  

Lets for a minute pretend that's actually true, its not, but lets make believe for a second.  That can change. 

You could lower the damage at range in favor of:

- Give them more ranged stiffs to be more of a ranged crowd control class

- Give them debuffs(ap down, eva down, dr down, etc.) so they could be more of a ranged status effect class

- Give them stronger melee skills to help protect themselves

- Give them distance pentalities on the skill such that the further away it is the less damage it does but it has high melee range damage

You're literally giving the "I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas" answer.

Last Edit : Feb 14, 2024, 06:49 (UTC)
# 6

This is a skill issue.  Learn to close the gap with FG and Iframes they are quite fragile.

Last Edit : Feb 14, 2024, 12:31 (UTC)
# 7
On: Feb 14, 2024, 06:49 (UTC), Written by Columba

This is a skill issue.  Learn to close the gap with FG and Iframes they are quite fragile.

let me just ask developers for more protected mobility, brb :)

Last Edit : Feb 14, 2024, 14:02 (UTC)
# 8

Life is still tough for rangers. It's probably a scaling issue when you add in, yknow, dum AP, dum buffs, dum lightstone + hum dmg, ETC.

Ranger is my favorite class because I've not found a class, even among movement classes, that can move like a ranger. The slide, the jump, it's all fun. The thing is, so many attacks are pseudo AoE, so you are actually trying to avoid 'areas' and your iframe... your iframe ahem... is not really all that special.

Diz gam hav grab. Diz gam have class w/ big iframe. Ranger just has to hope to find a safe spot.  It's true I'm not doing high lvl pvp w/ 750 gs, but I've played ranger for a looong time. Ranger was seen as trash for awhile (imo it hasn't changed that much, just people's brains based on what was prol BETTER before like wiz etc,) so it's funny they are back to where they were, if only because of nerfs.

It's probably A. A balance issue of how your team can protect you and B. SOME class is gonna be doing ranged DPS haha. If the list is ranger / archer / zerk / wiz... the game is pretty watered down in terms of options. I'd love to see the game overhauled a bit, but I like the idea of being a true glass cannon.

The range you can poke at someone tho is pretty insane. I know if I had OP AP, I could be doin some thangz. I def am not gonna say ranger is bad, but it's about what's expected. Classes have roles in large scale. Your role classes have to do better than theirs. But yea ranger has a lot of blow stuff up skills. U right.

Edit: o title was rangeD. hahaha. But here is my Ranger PoV :) Ranger IZ OK. I'd still prefer ranger even vs those other classes. Like I said, it's just different. lol I dunno why people say it doesn't take skill to play when I troll the ish out of people w/ my ranger even when I can't scratch them.

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Last Edit : Feb 14, 2024, 23:27 (UTC)
# 10

He is right, succession ranger damage is absolutly insane, either in uncapped and capped, you just charge right-click and get 2-3 kills each time!

All those perma protected classes are falling like flies.

I do not see any issues with Zerks and their 119% base dmg to most classes tho.

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