In comparison to many other classes the nerfs that happened after succession ninja came out were far too drastic. The class is rather unprotected in comparison to its awakened side and the damage was nerfed multiple times to make it quite weak now. In comparison to hashashin which is super protected and almost more mobile sometimes than succession ninja and also in comparison with its protected other side the awakened ninja both of which do more damage in player versus player situations. This class needs changes made to bring up its damage significantly and/or possibly bringing back the eva buff % from smokescreen to what it used to be previous to the nerfs a couple years ago. Awakened ninja also got buffs to it and is now actually much stronger than succession ninja while succession ninja has had no changes. I'm asking you revisit this class and try to pool together a way to make it better and more fair.
Succ Ninja is still stronger in group pvp compared to Awakened Ninja. Its high aoe damage, super armor rotations, and burst mobility give it a big advantage in node wars or gvgs. Yes, it naturally takes more damage because of less iframes and frontal guard, but it's harder to cc when the succ nin knows how to zone correctly to cover his gaps. However, I agree that it suffers a lot in 1v1s since they stripped most of the accuracy away from the kit, hit bladespin's damage pretty hard, and took away air attack moonlight. It still has some better matchups compared to awakening, like musa for example. But if awakening and succ fighting each other, awakening almost always wins because of stance dancing, silent charge, and core shower.
In comparison to many other classes the nerfs that happened after succession ninja came out were far too drastic. The class is rather unprotected in comparison to its awakened side and the damage was nerfed multiple times to make it quite weak now. In comparison to hashashin which is super protected and almost more mobile sometimes than succession ninja and also in comparison with its protected other side the awakened ninja both of which do more damage in player versus player situations. This class needs changes made to bring up its damage significantly and/or possibly bringing back the eva buff % from smokescreen to what it used to be previous to the nerfs a couple years ago. Awakened ninja also got buffs to it and is now actually much stronger than succession ninja while succession ninja has had no changes. I'm asking you revisit this class and try to pool together a way to make it better and more fair.
Sorry mate but reading that succession ninja dmg is quite weak makes me burst into laughter, i m 395dp with 6.2k hp full buffed, the 395 dp is full pen boss armor c9, duo fallen god 2x pen capotia earings, pen orki pen kutum c9 and a friend on his 277ap succ ninja takes off 80% of my life in one combo, for the kicks we brought another guy on a warrior with the same ap, 277 only difference being he had like 8 less sheet accuracy than the ninja, same gems...he did a full combo on me including a downsmash and took away 40% of my hp....we did this like 10-15 times with almost the same results each time.....If you call that weak damage i dont know what to think......
Sorry mate but reading that succession ninja dmg is quite weak makes me burst into laughter, i m 395dp with 6.2k hp full buffed, the 395 dp is full pen boss armor c9, duo fallen god 2x pen capotia earings, pen orki pen kutum c9 and a friend on his 277ap succ ninja takes off 80% of my life in one combo, for the kicks we brought another guy on a warrior with the same ap, 277 only difference being he had like 8 less sheet accuracy than the ninja, same gems...he did a full combo on me including a downsmash and took away 40% of my hp....we did this like 10-15 times with almost the same results each time.....If you call that weak damage i dont know what to think......
Dunno if it'd help since you're a Warrior, but you might want to try eva against Ninja. DR builds don't do much since Ninja has very good ap scaling. Accuracy is where Ninjas fall behind, hence why eva builds are usually a better counter. Also, what kind of buffs are you guys running? Are you popping your full +50/60 dp buffs before he combos you?
Dunno if it'd help since you're a Warrior, but you might want to try eva against Ninja. DR builds don't do much since Ninja has very good ap scaling. Accuracy is where Ninjas fall behind, hence why eva builds are usually a better counter. Also, what kind of buffs are you guys running? Are you popping your full +50/60 dp buffs before he combos you?
AP scales the same with all classes.
AP scales the same with all classes.
Damage is a function of AP and skill % multipliers. Ninjas have good multipliers to say the least, hence their damage scales more. He's also not wrong about the accuracy. SA has an amazing 4% modifier to acc on it while many other classes have double digit acc modifiers on their skills.
I prefer succ for pvp but I wish it was just as equally as powerful as it's awakening in pve. I could literally serpent ascension and katana shower the grouped mobs, but with succ I have do x4-x6 times as many apm and abilities.