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for the future of bdo
Feb 18, 2024, 18:58 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Feb 19, 2024, 13:42 (UTC)
# 27
On: Feb 18, 2024, 23:16 (UTC), Written by Columba

Lol.  Sounds bitter.  ALthough I disagree with the extent of the gvg changes, PA had to do something about the chronic harassment and bullying.  I don't get why you think all pvp should be eliminated just because you didn't get your way.

Well, pvp with rules have been pretty much killed because there's basically no incentive in using pk, you can't use it more than a few times, even if you're totally trying to defend a spot you were grinding on. And the intruder knows that, so he takes the hit because he knows you'll stop sooner or later. That's a blatant exploit of a loophole, but devs made their choice : KS is ok, even if it is made with the clear intent to be a nuisance. We got it, but still, some additional rules and a better logic would have given a better situation for all players. Except the ones who can't bear owpvp at all, even though they chose a game with such an owpvp. 

And now on regular channels harassment is made with endless ks. Much better, for sure. XD

So there's only Arsha if you want to be able to use pvp to defend your pve, and even there some players want the bonus drop (or its complete removal) because they don't accept the threat of pvp but they still want the benefit.

So.... Even if the proposal is extreme, I get the idea in OP's mind. These pve players want their own bubble, give it to them the hard way so they realize the nonsense they're asking for.

On my side, I still find it sad because instead, we should all be playing under the same rules. Seperating pvp from pve is exactly the idea of mainstream games, and that's what I wanted to avoid when I chose BDO back then.

Good rules can prevent any kind of griefing, they give a meaning to conflicts, pk, deaths, they can put an end to the fights. That's much better than having to choose between endless pvp or endless ks.

But yeah, PvPvE players looking for an owpvp with rules can f..k off from BDO, we got the message. Even though we were the ones to believe in its success and its originality in this world of copy-paste games. 

Last Edit : Feb 19, 2024, 14:18 (UTC)
# 28
On: Feb 18, 2024, 18:58 (UTC), Written by oubar

As PvE players have ruined PvP and as PvE players do not want PvP, I propose distinguishing three types of guilds: PvE, PvP, Lifeskill. Then, once everyone has chosen their side, we prohibit PvE and Lifeskill guilds from accessing PvP content, meaning no more RBF, no more node wars, no more Solar arena, no more war of roses, no more guild league, and a ban on entering the Arsha server. We allow PvP guilds to declare wars without restriction. We offer PvE guilds permanent access to Marni, and we increase energy regeneration for Lifeskill guilds.

This way, it will allow PvP players to engage in PvP content like the war of roses, without encountering PvE players in the Solar arena

Have a cookie and a tissue. You personally acted like cancer (do not generalize this to normal PvPers), now you were cut off like one. Where is your "I am going to feed everyone I meet to mobs" and "not playing the game anymore" now?

Last Edit : Feb 19, 2024, 14:30 (UTC)
# 29
On: Feb 19, 2024, 13:38 (UTC), Written by Sadalsuud

Well, pvp with rules have been pretty much killed because there's basically no incentive in using pk, you can't use it more than a few times, even if you're totally trying to defend a spot you were grinding on. And the intruder knows that, so he takes the hit because he knows you'll stop sooner or later. That's a blatant exploit of a loophole, but devs made their choice : KS is ok, even if it is made with the clear intent to be a nuisance. We got it, but still, some additional rules and a better logic would have given a better situation for all players. Except the ones who can't bear owpvp at all, even though they chose a game with such an owpvp. 

And now on regular channels harassment is made with endless ks. Much better, for sure. XD

So there's only Arsha if you want to be able to use pvp to defend your pve, and even there some players want the bonus drop (or its complete removal) because they don't accept the threat of pvp but they still want the benefit.

So.... Even if the proposal is extreme, I get the idea in OP's mind. These pve players want their own bubble, give it to them the hard way so they realize the nonsense they're asking for.

On my side, I still find it sad because instead, we should all be playing under the same rules. Seperating pvp from pve is exactly the idea of mainstream games, and that's what I wanted to avoid when I chose BDO back then.

Good rules can prevent any kind of griefing, they give a meaning to conflicts, pk, deaths, they can put an end to the fights. That's much better than having to choose between endless pvp or endless ks.

But yeah, PvPvE players looking for an owpvp with rules can f..k off from BDO, we got the message. Even though we were the ones to believe in its success and its originality in this world of copy-paste games. 

Well, I can see your point, yet I believe you really do not want to be associated with OP. This kind of people actually were the cause of the changes that you disagree with. He openly and repeatedly stated that his goal was to grief people as much as possible.

Last Edit : Feb 19, 2024, 14:49 (UTC)
# 30
On: Feb 19, 2024, 14:30 (UTC), Written by Asm

Well, I can see your point, yet I believe you really do not want to be associated with OP. This kind of people actually were the cause of the changes that you disagree with. He openly and repeatedly stated that his goal was to grief people as much as possible.

eh, if that's what makes him happy. haha. It's supposed to be a sandbox. People who wanna grief exist in all forms of competition. It's just kinda funny/sad when they try to rationalize it.

Just like escaping mob feeds over and over is funny as hell. I def am worried about the future of bdo tho... I was expecting more from this thread. Instead of just a bunch of hidden messages.

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