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Would you all say this is carried, cursed, or average?
Feb 20, 2024, 03:42 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Feb 22, 2024, 19:03 (UTC)
# 11
On: Feb 22, 2024, 11:28 (UTC), Written by Maltie

I dunno the cron cost of bossgear is a joke tho. YALL MELTERS. I def wouldn't do it now, but I'm in a different position. I'm not super geared, but if you just came off season or whatever it's not a bad thing. I mean people used crons on tuvala. Not really necessary now tho.

Putting 3600 or whatever on a BS is ugly. I just got my armor to +2, so I'll prol cron w/ that when I want more dp. I say be ez on dude for using crons. Crons are a dime a dozen now and if you get the gear it's worth. Better than using 3600 per tap and getting NOTHING.

I'm always afraid to use it on accessories, too, cuz of the downgrade chance. I would uninstall. I guess if I was going tet->pen but even then, I would cry.

Guilty melter here. I am at a point where my progress is heavily reliant on cron usage, so I always have a pre order up for a costume. Never buy them IRL money to melt, though. If I'm gambling my IRL money, I'm gambling for real money not gambling for digital strength.

Cronning tuvala and boss gear is bad advice. When you consider how easy boss gear is to get, how easy tuvala is to enhance and the bountiful enhance mats for tuvala, wasting such a valuable resource on them is not ideal. I mean, if the player is scared, lazy, or uneducated, OK, but no player who knows what they're doing would cron boss gear or tuvala.

At some point, you absolutely need to cron accessory taps, even if it downgrades. Take Deboreka as the prime example. No one who knows what they're doing wouldn't cron those.

Blackstar attempts for most players crons is best if they want it to succeed, despite the high cron cost. It's more worth to cron if you trying to enhance it and not build stacks. Ask biohack if you don't believe me.

Slumbering God armors, going past DUO (TRI+) using crowns is best if you're wanting it to succeed and not degress your progress. This is taking I to considerations like RNG, memory frag costs, costume-cron cost, etc. again, ask biohack if you don't believe me. He crunched the numbers.

Sorry, but cronning boss gear and tuvala, especially in 2024, is simply bad advice. I mean, it's your crons, do what you want, though. No skin off my back. Just trying to help.

Last Edit : Feb 22, 2024, 22:36 (UTC)
# 12
On: Feb 22, 2024, 19:03 (UTC), Written by PeaceInChaos

Guilty melter here. I am at a point where my progress is heavily reliant on cron usage, so I always have a pre order up for a costume. Never buy them IRL money to melt, though. If I'm gambling my IRL money, I'm gambling for real money not gambling for digital strength.

Cronning tuvala and boss gear is bad advice. When you consider how easy boss gear is to get, how easy tuvala is to enhance and the bountiful enhance mats for tuvala, wasting such a valuable resource on them is not ideal. I mean, if the player is scared, lazy, or uneducated, OK, but no player who knows what they're doing would cron boss gear or tuvala.

At some point, you absolutely need to cron accessory taps, even if it downgrades. Take Deboreka as the prime example. No one who knows what they're doing wouldn't cron those.

Blackstar attempts for most players crons is best if they want it to succeed, despite the high cron cost. It's more worth to cron if you trying to enhance it and not build stacks. Ask biohack if you don't believe me.

Slumbering God armors, going past DUO (TRI+) using crowns is best if you're wanting it to succeed and not degress your progress. This is taking I to considerations like RNG, memory frag costs, costume-cron cost, etc. again, ask biohack if you don't believe me. He crunched the numbers.

Sorry, but cronning boss gear and tuvala, especially in 2024, is simply bad advice. I mean, it's your crons, do what you want, though. No skin off my back. Just trying to help.

I disagree w/ nothing you said except that shaming is not good. That was my point. It's not the end of the world. People are at different levels. I wonder what % of the game ever gets a debo tet. heh. And yeah, you'd be surprised how punishing bdo is for enhancing to 'normal people.' I see 10%, like when I'm trying to push to +2 fg and it's like yeahhh. And it's so much that the game is making me type in my fs haha. I got like 15 100 stacks and I take huge amounts of time off. I hit pen bheg 2x off 111. That's a trash percentage. If someone is pushing to get pen boss, I don't think it's bad. I do think cron tuvala is kinda bad, but I can't be upset at people doing it. NOW, they would be a bit insane, w/ the tri stuff. They made season into a fun joke. It's just gonna drop people off harder once they get their boss gear. But yeah, getting hits off like... what 4.7% twice? That's pretty nuts. People are missing that w/ black star 150+ times. You can raw buy the crons, as some people I know would do as well. Is it optimal, no... but I'm not advising people to do it. I'm just saying that stacking up for end end game is not everyone's MO, and if it is, they will have plenty of time to acquire more stuff. I def would not be mad at someone cronning bossgear, but I do wish I hadn't... I just never thought I was gonna get a BS cuz pve weps seem jokey. But now I got 2 since the event dropped the price. The cron costs of accessories and bs is omgwtf and it always was. It's just normalized by end end game. That was my point. Neither is really wrong, but when you can get like 7 taps for one bs tap AND now it goes up +1 fs as well... it's like hmm.

It would be much crazier, to me, to use a 150 stack on a boss gear. Not a made one, but a given one. I'm sure people do that as well, tho. They are just so limited in supply. Crons you can get many ways. Before they gave out the free BS, there were prol people without BS or w/ BS tri. Pen BS is def nice, but, again, I've flushed enough crons to prol pen multiple boss gears trying to get that thing to move. 15-20k at least, and that's just starting off.

I personally think the bdo enhancement system should give more fs going up, especially for accessories. It's dumb you get +1 when you blow it up. It should be like it is for green gear, maybe more for boss gear, more for yellow accessories, and with stuff like FG and BS, since they take such a large dura hit per tap, they should get a large FS bump upon failing. Crons are such a scam. It's so sad haha. I had fun pushing a bunch of stuff to tet tho when I started. There shouldn't be such a drop off. Tet is tough enough. Plenty of people didn't have my luck w/ tets.

I bet if you took a survey a lot of people cron fg +1, tri bs, and pen tuvala. Maybe even accessories :o It's how the game teaches you to play.

I didn't watch the vid btw. I'm just saying in regards to people being like lulnub, that's not helping anyone, esp new player retention. It would be nice if they could make it easier tho, cuz while it might seem easy to you, or you already had boss gear by that time, penning stuff raw is no joke haha 'even in 2024.' Cept for tuvala w/ tri block. Even penning tuvala could be annoying if it could go all the way back down.

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Last Edit : Feb 23, 2024, 00:42 (UTC)
# 15
On: Feb 22, 2024, 22:36 (UTC), Written by Maltie

I didn't watch the vid btw. I'm just saying in regards to people being like lulnub, that's not helping anyone, esp new player retention. It would be nice if they could make it easier tho, cuz while it might seem easy to you, or you already had boss gear by that time, penning stuff raw is no joke haha 'even in 2024.' Cept for tuvala w/ tri block. Even penning tuvala could be annoying if it could go all the way back down.

I didn't watch it either.  Didn't need to.  I hear what you're saying.  But there's been numerous things added to keep new player retention.  Jetina's guranteed PEN questline was added -- this was revolutionary for new players / casuals.  Unheard of at the time it was released, people were crying that now their effort was devalued because now PEN is guaranteed.  Not only the guaranteed boss gear, but the devs also are making 2 yellow accessories guaranteed.  They also gave a free IV Blackstar to everyone -- including Tuvala Timmys.  Free dream horse too!  And about Tuvala, enhance materials are bountiful -- if it goes back down to TRI, just keep grinding.  It WILL go full PEN tuvala.  100%.  Just keep grinding for season mats, keep tapping, it will go full PEN eventually.  They even give mats for free during season. 

For a newbie, IMO, the worst part is they might be confused on how to efficiently do things.  They see their TET fail back down and they get super frustrated because they don't know this is normal and you just grind up more season mats and keep tapping until it goes without crons.  They don't know how the journey of BDO's enhancing is.  The game doesn't explicity tell them how to enhance right or how to view enhancing.  That's the beauty of BDO -- learning and networking with others is an important aspect of the game.  Despite its flaws, BDO's progression system has been streamlined to the point where, if a player knows what they're doing, progress is pretty straightforward up until they need Debo's.  The hardest decison to make is between buying versus enhancing.  But even when a player only needs PEN Debos, the path to PEN Debo is straightforward, albeit, a pretty insane grind.

Also keep in mind Tuvala players can make upwards of 700 mil an hour nowadays -- they can even pull 1 bil hours from time to time if their setup is right.  Average price of a PEN boss gear is 12 bil or so -- that's less than 18 horus of grind per piece.  Even faster if players use Jetina method on 2 boss gears which is around 6 bil and 8 bil respectively IIRC.  I remember grinding Star's End to get full PEN boss gear -- boss gear prices were around 15 bil you'd make about 150 mil an hour with no Disto.  Even with Disto, you're only looking at about 450 mil an hour.

My point is, it's so easy to get PEN boss gear now.  SOOO easy.  Blowing through literal THOUSANDS of crons like OP did is just plain bad.  I mean, getting mad they didn't hit a PEN boss gear on a 290 stack?  Lol?  People who know what they're doing would be so relieved about that fail.  I'm pretty sure he knows he's in the wrong.  I'm just the "creature" who can't help but be "toxic" and point these things out, right?  SMH.

EDIT:  I think he's just trying to point out how bad RNG is.  And I agree, RNG is not the most player-friendly system of progression.  In fact, can be predatory in many cases.  But to try portraying that by blowing thousands of crons on PEN yellow boss gear in 2024?  C'mon man.

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