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Feedback on Succ Musa 670gs PvP only
Feb 15, 2021, 11:32 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Feb 27, 2021, 01:44 (UTC)
# 11
On: Feb 26, 2021, 11:05 (UTC), Written by QSA

The thing is this guy is currently the #1 streamer playing musa, so his opinion probably matters a whole lot than literally 90% of musa playerbase. 

 

i don't understand the reason why he keeps lying to himself and his fanbase, musa is trash for any game activity except T1, and i'm not talking succession only, i'm talking awakening too, that atm, imo is better because of the spammable proj bon, but still, not enough to fix the core issues this class has.

 

it's probably because of people like shakybay that our suggestions to improve the class (which have been going on for 3 years now) have been ignored completely.

 

as for my opinion, i agree with the post but disagree on the damage part, i think the damage is really good once you cc'd someone, and cc'ing is obviously the problem, since you really cant stand long fights because of stamina problems, and in the current slow-stacking, perma sa meta, you really cant cc (if you fight a decent player)

of course he is gonna put in his dumb videos fights against bad players or gearlets where he wins easily, but that's not a reason to say musa is good, at all.

On: Feb 26, 2021, 11:05 (UTC), Written by QSA

The thing is this guy is currently the #1 streamer playing musa, so his opinion probably matters a whole lot than literally 90% of musa playerbase. 

 

i don't understand the reason why he keeps lying to himself and his fanbase, musa is trash for any game activity except T1, and i'm not talking succession only, i'm talking awakening too, that atm, imo is better because of the spammable proj bon, but still, not enough to fix the core issues this class has.

 

it's probably because of people like shakybay that our suggestions to improve the class (which have been going on for 3 years now) have been ignored completely.

 

as for my opinion, i agree with the post but disagree on the damage part, i think the damage is really good once you cc'd someone, and cc'ing is obviously the problem, since you really cant stand long fights because of stamina problems, and in the current slow-stacking, perma sa meta, you really cant cc (if you fight a decent player)

of course he is gonna put in his dumb videos fights against bad players or gearlets where he wins easily, but that's not a reason to say musa is good, at all.

I highly doubt PA is doing any sort of favortism when it comes to taking in feedback. I even further doubt they even care that Purify exists. The more reasonable answer is that they base most of their balance decisions off of their home region and KR players just don't care. Most of them would just choose the option to go to a better class and the few people that do voice their distaste, regardless of the region, only make up a vocal minority. Why would they bother caring about the opinons of a few thousand players when it doesn't benefit them in any way? They'll make more money off of people rerolling and dedicating man hours into making better classes or refining the classics that are already strong and popular. 

Last Edit : Feb 27, 2021, 01:52 (UTC)
# 12
On: Feb 26, 2021, 14:34 (UTC), Written by Merre

Unpopular opinion but I think purify gets way too much hate. He is way better than majority of people that make fun of him deffo not the best but not bad either like everyone seems to say. Good musa but his definition of good class is based on outcome regardless the action. You can have 100% winrate on musa 1v1 vs any class but the way to get there is just disgusting cheese and frustrating people into playing bad which is just garbage class design but in the end yes u are winning so he is not entirely wrong. Its just weird he is content with the class in that state usually even if class is good people cry for more buffs meanwhile class is only functional due to chase and arrows and he is fine with that. Thats a pepoweird from me. 

Like I said in my reply above: He hard cherry picked gearlets to make cringe montage clips of Musa and when he fights geared players in open world he plays back and lets his actually skilled friends do the work so he can then secure kills. He constantly got flak for this on reddit and on his youtube channel which led to him being outted for actually having an army of alt accounts that he used to defend himself. 

The entire time this is happening he is notorious for holding this false ego of him being the only good Musa player on NA when he literally never even remotely matched up to the top tier players. He also spent a lot of time shit talking other players for rolling off the class while claiming that since he's a "true" musa player he'll be with it to the end. Funnily enough he'd then go to reroll onto flavor of the month classes every so often and then come back to Musa some time later and still claim to be a "Musa Main". 

In my opinion this is the very definition of a trash player. 

Last Edit : Mar 2, 2021, 14:56 (UTC)
# 13
On: Feb 27, 2021, 01:52 (UTC), Written by Xuefong

Like I said in my reply above: He hard cherry picked gearlets to make cringe montage clips of Musa and when he fights geared players in open world he plays back and lets his actually skilled friends do the work so he can then secure kills. He constantly got flak for this on reddit and on his youtube channel which led to him being outted for actually having an army of alt accounts that he used to defend himself. 

The entire time this is happening he is notorious for holding this false ego of him being the only good Musa player on NA when he literally never even remotely matched up to the top tier players. He also spent a lot of time shit talking other players for rolling off the class while claiming that since he's a "true" musa player he'll be with it to the end. Funnily enough he'd then go to reroll onto flavor of the month classes every so often and then come back to Musa some time later and still claim to be a "Musa Main". 

In my opinion this is the very definition of a trash player. 

for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-ZOBeN8338

 

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Last Edit : Mar 3, 2021, 22:31 (UTC)
# 14
On: Feb 27, 2021, 01:52 (UTC), Written by Xuefong

when he fights geared players in open world he plays back and lets his actually skilled friends do the work so he can then secure kills. 

not that i actually watched the videos or anything but.... this kinda sounds like the guy is playing the class like its supposed to - capitalizing on team's ccs, going in and out and staying safe on outskirts, ready to pounce on team ccs or punishing enemies that left their teams safety for a breather. 

 

thats the way u should play rmb class.

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Last Edit : Mar 4, 2021, 13:21 (UTC)
# 15
On: Mar 3, 2021, 22:31 (UTC), Written by Seeryus

not that i actually watched the videos or anything but.... this kinda sounds like the guy is playing the class like its supposed to - capitalizing on team's ccs, going in and out and staying safe on outskirts, ready to pounce on team ccs or punishing enemies that left their teams safety for a breather. 

 

thats the way u should play rmb class.

He indeed plays the class right musa is not a play maker but thats the issue you are basically a kill stealing bot with high speed engage.  Other classes can play the same way as you do but you cant play like other classes.  Thats not really something majority is content with. 

 

Class lacks impact while its role is simply filled by better classes. Its the most irrelevant class in game even shai is a higher impact class while providing no damage.

 

The mobility becomes liability when slows are so common and easily applied your only strenght is disabled by a slows that are applied in huge aoe  and while protected and you can do nothing about it no counter play to being stripped from your only advantage. Well... there is one... dont engage, dont fight, dont play. 

 

Dont even get me started on grab classes if you ever lose to musa as a grab class its not the musa doing good its you being bad.  Literally skill for skill trade the moment you trade dmg opponent should grab which in perfect scenario will give the grab class 100% win rate.  Only way musa wins a lot of matchups is human error factor or desynced cc in something that should be protected.

 

Meta classes have so called perfect protection that allows only for super armor trades if performed correctly and entire top tier pvp revolves around rotating and attempting to exploit the human error or desync or being a grab class that shits on protections while musa is one of few classes with the weakest rotation that has 0 ccs yes u can stay protected but you are protected deffensively on a stamina timer while others spam offensive protection with no timer or way longer timer.

 

Hashashins are also insane example of how shit musa kit really is you need to use Q block to regen stamina eventually at which point you nearly automatically lose to the block jump.  Only time you can regen is if you create distance long enough to be out of jump range but hash has enough mobility to stay in range. 

 

TLDR: Succ musa kit potential is on the floor compared to other classes chilling on the moon. Yes it has a niche use that its not even the best at but that shouldnt be acceptable. People are malding because Purify licks the pissed on floor and enjoys it while lots of other classes  enjoy their space caviar on the moon.

Last Edit : Mar 4, 2021, 15:11 (UTC)
# 16

Succ Musa is God tier 1vs1 at least. Barely has any bad match-ups when played correctly and dictates the whole flow of the fight whether it's pushing or bailing.

Last Edit : May 11, 2021, 17:19 (UTC)
# 17
On: Mar 4, 2021, 15:11 (UTC), Written by heavyElement

Succ Musa is God tier 1vs1 at least. Barely has any bad match-ups when played correctly and dictates the whole flow of the fight whether it's pushing or bailing.

This is just not true. 1v1 is okay and playable. Stub is a outdated story when other classes had more gaps and less protection even way prior to core skills. Meta is SA 24/7 and shield class. If you think you having fun with musa, you just havent played anyone decent thst understands their class.

 

 

This applies to Shakys comment too. I dont care if other people think he is a meme. I did get lots of info and insights from him. But I simply cannot agree with him. Also not everyone can play at that level where you see most classes gap from their animation and stub it. You can ask any musa or prior musa mains, id give up all variant of stub for a grab.

What is the point of all the accuracy modifiers when you cant catch people. Every updates, and new class releases have been indirect nerf to musa. Core skills that reduce gap, new grab/shield classes guard nova, sage with crazy iframe dash, hash that took 80%musa population.

 

It just requires alot more knowledge to play musa. Understand all other classes to know their gap. 

SA trade is bad where ones that we can spam does no dmg. If blooming was at least fg. We'd have slight better time trading. Large scale is complete shxt due to stam issues and a long combo unless you are gear stomping. Cant even use blooming combos in group fights because moment you use blooming you will end up on the ground.

 

Serene mind is such a scam. I have to pay stamina to get a dmg nerfed skill?? Wtf designed this concept?  Im in a transition to a different class after 2 years of just playing musa, not even tagged.  It felt like I will just rage quit this game one day if I didnt rr.  Existence of rbf and caster does not help this either. Why do wiz have so many protection when they can climb up on a roof?? How am I suppose to killed them or prevent them from going up there when they can SA trade me to death? Dafuq? 

 

As far as pvp goes musa is definitely not beginner friendly.

Yea you can make it look like you are doing something, but you arent actually doing shxt.

 

Pve is bottom tier confirmed worse than a tamer.

Musa has lost his identity with outdated chase and with other classes being mobile.

Musa does not have a single aspect where he excels, but just okay in 1v1 and completely trash in other.

 

I was excited when shaky became PA partner hoping that he speaks for musas but no I was wrong based on his comment above.

 

Musa is lacking tools to fight. Musa has been given 20% to output 80%+ to win a fight

 

My final thoughts of playing musa for 2 years til 640gs 

 Just delete this class if you are gonna let him collect dusts.  

 

I try to brainwash myself into believe succ musa is good and I love playing him, but no I was dilutional by having sort of hope that PA would make it playable

 

Truly sorry for being so toxic but this has been on my mind for past  6 months deperately hoping for better days.

Let me be the first one to tell you. Unlike how I was scammed by reddit that musa was good

 

Just play something else. Stay away from musa. 

 

 

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