Yeah, RNG def has some huge cons to it.  A Tuvala player getting PEN Blackstar on their very first attempt at 150 FS with a J's Hammer versus players who have failed their attempts 50 times in a row at 250 stacks is a very possible scenario and this is due to the nature of RNG.

However, due to changes in the game, particularly the Central Market in this example, progress has never been easier in BDO.  All it takes is careful planning, seeing the task through, and enough drive to complete the grind.  BDO is a grinder-game, after all is said and done.  Always has been a grinder-game at heart.

Nearly all gear related items can be purchased with silver now -- and this bypasses RNG completely.  Barring some very, very rare items like PEN Deboreka and the nearly impossible PEN Slumbering God pieces, PEN Blackstar and pretty much every other accessory can be purchased with silver.  Couple this with the drastic increase of silver per hour compared to 5 years ago (or so, IDK the exact time they buffed all spots), purchasing gear through CM is a realistic goal, even for more casual players.

I am not arguing how crappy and unfair RNG can be.  It 100% is.  I am just saying you can buy your gear to bypass it, basically.  Not saying it makes the crappiness of RNG okay.  Just saying there's an alternative.

Do you know Palworld? It came out a month ago, I tryhard this game, I spent 400 hours (11h/day? in hard mod) improving my build, I loved playing it and you know what I liked the most? is that after a month of tryhard to get the perfect pals, I saw that it worked very well, I had the result of my many hours of playing, I had an accomplishment.

I also played bdo, 7 years and soon 8 years of bdo, and you know what? I'm at 301 AP :) no progress, no accomplishment, no pleasure, just rng.

 I've seen some Hundreds of players land on the game and in a few months onetape / twotape all their equipment, get 3 T10s in 10 clicks in total, they are even forced to click other T10s because they have crafted around twenty tries... people who have 3 pen debo in not even 5 clicks... and then you have the others who will spend 2 years clicking without any results, without any advancement... and then you have the CMs who will tell you, " you just have to buy them at the market place" :clown face:

I have also played other MMORPGs, and the difference with bdo? is that on these mmo the equipment is VERY varied, you have several elements and each build has its own stats and there 'has FULL of them, and very random, you can have one (+1 strength +38 intelligence +234 endurance +12 cc) as well as you can have (+878 strength +456 intelligence +4 endurance +1 cc).. the optimization is done there above and even if new equipment comes out and which will be systematically better, if you have perfect builds well yours will always remain viable. 

on bdo? fixed stats and that's limited to very few stats in all.. great. the only way to improve? it's to wait for God J to add to us once every two years a single accessory to gain 4 AP or an armor to gain 6 DP lol, variety of builds level 0, everyone can use the same build, there is no richess, no diversity, everyone uses the same artifacts, the same crystals, the same armor and weapons.. 

I am not here to criticize this system itself but just to point out the lack of diversity and especially the fact that unlike other games where progression is done precisely via this diversity, that of bdo is done by starting the same thing over and over again over several years.. click, breaks, grinding again, click, downgrade, grinding again, click breaks, grinding again.. 

And then there's the famous "rng" where you have mega carried people and others where the game sucks.. they really think that seeing players first try all their equipment in a few months while roofing struggles for years will this encourage you to enjoy playing? They think that by frustrating the players they will end up in cash shop?? even gacha are starting to abandon this mechanic (thanks Chinese laws)..

The most frustrating thing about this game is not not succeeding... it's trying hard and seeing that other people with not even 1/1000th of your effort manage to do much better just because the "rng "decided like this... that's what's frustrating about this game and that you hear players complaining about it all the time in discord.. there's no problem that the game is hard if everyone has an equal chance... but that's not at all the case... I'm talking about optimization and accessories that downgrade or breaks... but it's valid even for loot... for treasures and other rare resources..

I speak for myself but I took the example of other players and friends with the same feelings..

Well said, as usual. 

What people should keep in mind here is, I don't think so many people are LOVING rng in gear progression. I for one, do my best to avoid it, as much as possible I don't use my earned money on gambles, but I occasionally do it with all the gifts they throw at us.

But for any player reading this answer, objectively, you can avoid RNG until the last steps of your gear progression. It's often slower, but if you keep comparing your steady progression with the flashy RNG progression of some players, yes, you may end up being tempted by a gamble. It does not mean you like this rng, but you got tricked.

So don't compare. Don't try gamble if you're not ready to lose, so only buy, or only gamble what you accept to lose and always keep a part of your income for direct purchases, and you'll see you'll get satisfied on a regular basis.

What he's saying is that if he'd put those 400 hours into BDO, unlike Palword, he wouldn't be guaranteed to have made any progress.
When I see that over the years I've been playing, I've lost one of them to a TET BS and another to PEN, and that during that time I've seen my guilds mates 1/2 all their stuff with not even a tenth of my grind time. I totally understand that some people are frustrated and feel cheated by the game.
What's more, this frustration is again felt in other parts of the game, such as the grind of treasures or accessories like deboreka. I don't think that adding pities like potions is a solution, because it's once again rng and therefore once again frustrating.
On the other hand, you could set a pity fix at a fixed number of tries or monsters killed, for example, because this time, whatever happens, you know that you'll end up making progress and that your efforts and time invested will finally be rewarded.

To all those who started pen Debo grind gl you either go dry on drops or takes ages for costume , to just fail n dg especially for pen .-. When you cap and only grind left they expect us to run in circle love the game but eventually it going to go but we're all grown up they can't expect us to keep doing this with no other content to do that time gated or repetitive we need solo rank pvp or mini games raid dungeon but no we get more classes it like Diablo 🤣 I did all story line. 26 time  already like everything cap what the point it basically solo game so add solo shit for us to do for us to look forward logging on everyday 

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BDO will never implement what you're asking for - linear progression. If you want to see a decent one, you don't have to look to new games, Monster Hunter (Now 6 years old) has an almost perfect linear progression.

A. Because S.Korean culture feeds into these types of gacha games*;

B. Because they wouldn't know how to do it anyway** and;

C. Linear progression is very difficult to monetize consistently;

{Not excusing them, just stating their (flawed) reasoning}

*If you ask the average Korean Gamer, they will tell you that progressing with your wallet is a viable strategy for victory. It comes from the fact that S.Korea is one of the worst caste-based societies currently in the world (the same families that were kings and emperors now own Samsung, Kia, and so on) and it's deeply ingrained in every fiber of their society, from organization to the language itself. Also, a little-known fact, take a look at the last name of J and the biggest shareholder in PA....

**They could take A LOT of hints from a game they already own [Eve Online] on how to do linear progression, how to monetize more healthily, and how to create an even better player-controlled sandbox. Unfortunately, they perceive Eve only as a cash cow, even though it's immensely successful in the West, and have not taken a single hint from how Icelandic-based CCP is running that awesome alternate [Sci-fi] universe. BDO has the potential to be "fantasy Eve" or "fantasy SW: Galaxies", its just that the dev/management team doesn't have the necessary vision and is highly aversive to any kind of external feedback. Their strategy is, break stuff, apologize profusely {almost kissing the ground}, but don't take any responsibility {aka Resign from the position you f-ed things from}.

8 years and 301 ap? Registering an account and then uninstalling the game does not count like if you played 8 years.

i agree though that RNG is bad but
nowadays everything except deborekas and T10s is obtainable in the marketplace.