Nerf classes that can spam Iframe while having grab.
Mar 15, 2024, 17:09 (UTC)
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# 11
Youre playing a tanky warlord class with a 360 Q block, ofc you dont have spammable iframes like squishy oneshot classes
If they didnt have iframes they would flop on the floor and die if anything breath in their direction.
remove iframes off of those classes, and they should also remove Warriors dr scaling and 360 Q block or its not fair
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Mar 16, 2024, 21:51 (UTC)
# 12
Tamer i-frame is also a very short i-frame that get rolled into a SA. It's not like it's a 100% iframe movement, it's like 20% iframe 80% SA. Only the very begining is iframe, you can catch it as soon as it starts moving.
Then again, considering how Tamer is bad at pretty much every pvp except 1v1, at which it's supposed to excel, it makes sense to have some tools to be a good duelist.
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# 13
im not a pvp but pretty sure sorc is the only "spamable" iframe class but not really.
I played awe lahn and she has no spamable iframe, she has 1 long iframe with long cd but thats it, the other one is so short and also has a cd
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# 14
Completely disagree with OP too. I don't want to comment anything else.
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# 15
On: Mar 16, 2024, 10:49 (UTC), Written by Anvorka
Drakania talking in chat.
Drak not easy. We got 2 iframe. 1 in 3s CD & 1 in 8s CD.
We can't Dash > Solar > C > Grab instantly from 5000km far like warrior can & we don't have Q 360° SA-FG block
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Drak do be still busted as shit nevertheless
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# 17
On: Mar 16, 2024, 11:16 (UTC), Written by Xenon
None of the classes you listed were reworked to gain such things. Iframes have been in the game for a long time, and the only class in your list that can spam iframes are tamers. [...]
Tamers are unholy, but just like most of the classes in this list, it's a dead or low population class. It's only enjoying a small renaissance in effectiveness because of just how good that magnus skill is. It really suffers from how ineffective it is in scales larger than 3v3, so it's whatever. Also that class lives and dies by its grab. Everything else that it does is complete booty cheeks nowadays.
Well, it's Iframe > SA > Iframe > and so on, and it eats at our stamina if we spam it, we have to weave in our other skills and they have a CD.
Moreover, our grab have a really short range and enemies makes their best to keep us away. That's why we often land a grab after we land another CC, this is only an opening CC against novices or players unaware of our presence.
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# 18
Suggest Practicing PvP
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# 19
On: Mar 15, 2024, 17:09 (UTC), Written by Anvorka
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Since reboot, Pearl Abyss decided it was really cool idea to provide Iframe on classes that can use a grab.
I'm mostly pointing Lahn awakening, Sage awakening, Hashashin awakening, Ranger awakening, Ninja, Kunoichi & Tamer.
Those classes I listed are a serious issue in duel, they can use their grab just after an Iframe. This kind of genius idea from Pearl Abyss doesn't help at all in the current PVP state.
We are already struggling due to damage, and insane damage resistance.
Iframe on those classes is making them really hard to punish especially when you know they can punish the moment you do a single Super Armor or Forward Guard.
I kinda understand Pearl Abyss wants to grant them a protection because they don't have a block, but those classes are already very well protected beside their Iframe, they also have a very good mobility, for some their stamina is the only "nerf" Pearl Abyss found to not make their way too powerful, which is a bit reversed to the iframe.
This idea also became even worst after Pearl Abyss decided to add Arena of Solare and balance classes around that.
They did a complete rework to Ranger awakening, granting her damage, mobility, protection while she can keep her pre awakening to pre engage with CCs.
They gave back to Tamer her iframes they removed during reboot, granting her an insane protection rotation.
They reworked Ninja awakening, making him insane in PVP, it's protected, it has insane damage.
All of this has to change.
You have a grab, you're using only SA / FG or nothing as protection.
Since reboot, Pearl Abyss decided it was really cool idea to provide Iframe on classes that can use a grab.
I'm mostly pointing Lahn awakening, Sage awakening, Hashashin awakening, Ranger awakening, Ninja, Kunoichi & Tamer.
Those classes I listed are a serious issue in duel, they can use their grab just after an Iframe. This kind of genius idea from Pearl Abyss doesn't help at all in the current PVP state.
We are already struggling due to damage, and insane damage resistance.
Iframe on those classes is making them really hard to punish especially when you know they can punish the moment you do a single Super Armor or Forward Guard.
I kinda understand Pearl Abyss wants to grant them a protection because they don't have a block, but those classes are already very well protected beside their Iframe, they also have a very good mobility, for some their stamina is the only "nerf" Pearl Abyss found to not make their way too powerful, which is a bit reversed to the iframe.
This idea also became even worst after Pearl Abyss decided to add Arena of Solare and balance classes around that.
They did a complete rework to Ranger awakening, granting her damage, mobility, protection while she can keep her pre awakening to pre engage with CCs.
They gave back to Tamer her iframes they removed during reboot, granting her an insane protection rotation.
They reworked Ninja awakening, making him insane in PVP, it's protected, it has insane damage.
All of this has to change.
You have a grab, you're using only SA / FG or nothing as protection.
Same logic goes like, remove mobility from big sword big shield classes and add extreme stamina usage to them
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