Bro even with 730 GS you can be melted in 1,5s ... it really does not matter dmg output in this game is screwed is too high. I have 742 GS in RBF, random CC= dead. Only guys who can survive are hard capped evasion/DR builds like striker, valks, zerkers do ( Shai is different story) etc.. dunno how they do 15-20 kills.. their dmg against my squishy ninja is very low.. they can't kill me even in glass cannon build. PvP in this game looks like this 1 CC and u are dead in 90% of scenarios.

Agreed.  cc is too powerful in this game

They should add Controls to the list of tools in the game. For example, if we could choose how much total AP, DP, Accuracy, etc., in a duel or battle we want to use, so we could manually equalize the power by will, and a method to voluntarily display this stats to our opponent, so we can confirm the measures, then we could even use the rest of the content in game to have real pvp fun by coordination and will. This could either be achieved with rental gear and stat UI display, or even with stat templates or sliders that allow us to choose up to the maximum level of our current power.

The lack of this controls is very disfunctional. In comparison, getting more and more power without control, is like upgrading a oven to enable more temperature, but never getting the option to adjust the heat, resulting into every cook, getting burned. Tipical mistake of most games.

If anything we need more uncapped pvp not more capped, idk what game are you playing

The Gimmicks are the worst part, haha. +1000 on that.

I would like to pvp! I'd spend all my time in game pvping while my energy regenned to do life skill if I could. Otherwise I just grind trash mobs or something.

Sometimes on arsha there are some pretty interesting things. There was a little going on at blood wolves the other day, and nobody was there who was invincible to me, so I was pretty happy. Unfort, no reward and you're playing right @ spawn usually when stuff like that goes down, so it's just endless loop.

Def def want stuff without memes like cap points / consumables and I dunno how they can equalize gear, but I think they need to allow people options for building and decide what is equal. I am a succ ranger, and as I said, imo at too low of AP, I am not doing anything. If the AP is mid tier and the DP isn't high enough, I'm melting everyone, and end game I JUST DUNNO. I imagine it's closer to melting tho haha.

So, balance would have to be done in its own way.

BIG BRAIN IDEA: LET PEOPLE CHOOSE A COSTUME FOR THEIR SIDE AND LET PEOPLE ADJUST THEIR STATS WITHOUT GEAR BEING INVOLVED. Then, you really can balance. Of course, that goes to prove the game's gear etc is imbalanced thruout classes, still... it might help them balance the game, too. Working as intended pvp in BDO would actually be pretty amazing. It would be a top pvp game.

I bet it's a similar issue to Succ Ranger, tbh, scaling. At that gear level, the dmg prol isn't balanced well.

I haven't played AoS. I HEV NO FREND. IF their dmg is right, though, there's no reason to believe they wouldn't be derping people out. Even in a small space if people offer you the tiniest bit of protection and you can melt people that's GG. If you can't melt people, then you just can't really pvp haha. If you can't blow up an unprotected person, your whole build just doesn't really work. Speaking as ranger, and yea Archer is diff... archer is actually more survivable.

If you can't kill people on their feet or apply enough dmg to make people back off, I don't see how a class that is meant to be long range can be successful in 3v3. Keep in mind it's not just dmg but dmg against the people who you'd face w/ fg and SA etc.

GvG League, RBF, and Rose modes currently dominate the uncapped game scene, while AoS stands as the best equalized mode available. However, AoS suffers from gimmicks that hinder its potential. The absence of additional capped modes only exacerbates the divide within the PvP community, particularly for those without top-tier gear. This creates a perception that PvP is merely about instant defeat, devoid of genuine skill or engagement. In an MMO centered around combat, such dynamics are far from ideal for player interactions.

Speaking from experience as a player with a main account boasting a gear score of 740+, it's evident that many individuals abandon the game due to the daunting barrier to PvP entry, barring the AoS mode. Even those who attempt to engage through nodewar guilds often encounter bureaucratic hurdles that have plagued the Node system from its inception.

Introducing an additional mode, perhaps an equalized RBF devoid of gimmicks, would provide a much-needed avenue for players to engage in clashes without the looming concern of gear disparities. This simple addition could significantly enhance the PvP experience and foster a more inclusive community.

Which goes to my argument CC in this game as it currently is implemented is STUPID.