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Sorry, but the PvP system is why I don't enjoy BDO
Apr 10, 2021, 06:24 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Apr 17, 2021, 01:38 (UTC)
# 241

It's patheticaly funny when i read people suggesting PvE servers with lower drop rate than the Normal servers, or if you enter once you cannot get out from them and all the other BS ideas.

 

First why would anyone be able to move between Normal server and Arsha server whenever they want, but if they create PvE server, once you enter you won't be able to get out?

It makes no sense.

Unless you think Black Desert Online is Overlord the anime. . ./facepalm

 

Secondly today (and it is not just today, it is almost everytime i grind) i grinded for 2 hours straight and burned 100.000 Agris points and i got ZERO rare drops while i had Kamasylvia drop buff + lootscroll active.

And you suggesting to reduce the drop rate even more in the PvE servers LoL!!!

Maybe we should grind for 10 hours untill we get a rare drop right?

Even now you make more silver from the thrash loot, instead of the rare drops and you really suggesting to lower the drop rate further?

LoL!!!

 

And people in 250+- areas don't even ask for DFS.

Only no brainers in Stars end ask for DFS.

 

Propably the same people that type "GZ" when someone win Garmoth Heart or Vell heart or hitting PEN are suggesting these craps.

Some people think hitting the world boss 1 time or 1 tapping PEN is an achievement, when it's all about your seeded account RNG lel.

 

This community is funny xD

Last Edit : Apr 17, 2021, 02:08 (UTC)
# 242
On: Apr 17, 2021, 01:28 (UTC), Written by Prokaizer

It's patheticaly funny when i read people suggesting PvE servers with lower drop rate than the Normal servers, or if you enter once you cannot get out from them and all the other BS ideas.

 

First why would anyone be able to move between Normal server and Arsha server whenever they want, but if they create PvE server, once you enter you won't be able to get out?

It makes no sense.

Unless you think Black Desert Online is Overlord the anime. . ./facepalm

 

Secondly today (and it is not just today, it is almost everytime i grind) i grinded for 2 hours straight and burned 100.000 Agris points and i got ZERO rare drops while i had Kamasylvia drop buff + lootscroll active.

And you suggesting to reduce the drop rate even more in the PvE servers LoL!!!

Maybe we should grind for 10 hours untill we get a rare drop right?

Even now you make more silver from the thrash loot, instead of the rare drops and you really suggesting to lower the drop rate further?

LoL!!!

 

And people in 250+- areas don't even ask for DFS.

Only no brainers in Stars end ask for DFS.

 

Propably the same people that type "GZ" when someone win Garmoth Heart or Vell heart or hitting PEN are suggesting these craps.

Some people think hitting the world boss 1 time or 1 tapping PEN is an achievement, when it's all about your seeded account RNG lel.

 

This community is funny xD

Well, only difference between Arsha and normal servers is Arsha doesn't penalize PK and a 50% drop boost to compensate for the time spent PVP-ing.  That's it.  People still grind mobs on Arsha, so there is still plenty of PVE to be had there.  A PVE server, however, is a server completely devoid of PVP.  So there's a big difference, would you agree?

 

"PA, make me a server where I can lifeskill, AFK, and grind mobs to make silver / EXP without the risk of PVP encounters"

 

Well, may I say, "PA, make me a server where I can PVP to make silver without the need to grind mobs / lifeskill"

 

:)

Last Edit : Apr 17, 2021, 13:02 (UTC)
# 243
On: Apr 17, 2021, 02:06 (UTC), Written by PeaceInChaos

Well, may I say, "PA, make me a server where I can PVP to make silver without the need to grind mobs / lifeskill"

 

 

And that's the reason why everyone keep saying that BDO is PvE game and not a PvP game.

Because the PvP is a waste of time and gives you ZERO reward for your time invested in it.

You can kill 1 million people and what your reward will be?

Negative Karma NICE!

You will get 0 silver in your bank account after 1 million PK's.

Oh and not only that, you might even reverse progression by doing it!

Isn't that fun?

As you can see the PvP in this game is completely pointless and that's why everyone and their mom is asking for PvE servers.

 

Last Edit : Apr 17, 2021, 14:49 (UTC)
# 244
On: Apr 17, 2021, 12:49 (UTC), Written by Prokaizer

 

And that's the reason why everyone keep saying that BDO is PvE game and not a PvP game.

Because the PvP is a waste of time and gives you ZERO reward for your time invested in it.

You can kill 1 million people and what your reward will be?

Negative Karma NICE!

You will get 0 silver in your bank account after 1 million PK's.

Oh and not only that, you might even reverse progression by doing it!

Isn't that fun?

As you can see the PvP in this game is completely pointless and that's why everyone and their mom is asking for PvE servers.

 

Funny...I know people who are probably reaching that 1 million PvP kills and made BILLIONS doing it.  Node war and sieges makes money.  So doed RBF...although that is chump change honestly.  The open world PvP DOES make you money as it gives a way to deal with people who think they can come into where you are grinding for silver and ruin your rotations.  Something you CAN NOT do in a PvE server.  Even if you never engage in the open world PvP, it STILL protectes you as it gives people who may come in and just grind wherever from just doing it.  You BENEFIT from the system you seem to hate so much.  

 

Also you can speak for yourself...but NOBODY ELSE.  Since there are plenty of people advocating that a PvE server is a BAD IDEA, you claim that EVERYONE wants a PvE server is at best a LIE.  AT BEST.

Last Edit : Apr 17, 2021, 15:05 (UTC)
# 245
On: Apr 10, 2021, 06:24 (UTC), Written by Saryonna

   Hello and first off I am sorry to tell you, but I have no p;ans to support the game any longer with my money.  I play because my wife enjoys the game, however, I hate it.  I understand the love of PvP but when you are on a main road and are not afk while riding your horse and get killed instantly because some player loves to make everyone elses life hard, then the game has a problem that you have not addressed.  I will say I hate PvP now die to the fact I have actually had a personality change while PvPing.  I would love to see either PvE only servers or a PvP system like BnS where you have to wear a specific outfit to be flagged for PvP.  This whole idea of kill anyone you want, even if they are not flagged for PvP and are not doing anything to anyone is terrible.  I'm not saying do away with PvP, but give PvE players a safe and fun enviroment to play as well.  

Do you like sci-fi mmorpgs? If so, check out Phantasy Star Online 2: New Genesis, or PSO2:NGS for short. The closed beta starts next month!

Last Edit : Apr 17, 2021, 15:05 (UTC)
# 246
On: Apr 10, 2021, 06:24 (UTC), Written by Saryonna

   Hello and first off I am sorry to tell you, but I have no p;ans to support the game any longer with my money.  I play because my wife enjoys the game, however, I hate it.  I understand the love of PvP but when you are on a main road and are not afk while riding your horse and get killed instantly because some player loves to make everyone elses life hard, then the game has a problem that you have not addressed.  I will say I hate PvP now die to the fact I have actually had a personality change while PvPing.  I would love to see either PvE only servers or a PvP system like BnS where you have to wear a specific outfit to be flagged for PvP.  This whole idea of kill anyone you want, even if they are not flagged for PvP and are not doing anything to anyone is terrible.  I'm not saying do away with PvP, but give PvE players a safe and fun enviroment to play as well.  

Do you like sci-fi mmorpgs? If so, check out Phantasy Star Online 2: New Genesis, or PSO2:NGS for short. The closed beta starts next month!

Last Edit : Apr 17, 2021, 16:46 (UTC)
# 247
On: Apr 17, 2021, 14:49 (UTC), Written by ColdNapalm

Funny...I know people who are probably reaching that 1 million PvP kills and made BILLIONS doing it.  Node war and sieges makes money.  So doed RBF...although that is chump change honestly.  The open world PvP DOES make you money as it gives a way to deal with people who think they can come into where you are grinding for silver and ruin your rotations.  Something you CAN NOT do in a PvE server.  Even if you never engage in the open world PvP, it STILL protectes you as it gives people who may come in and just grind wherever from just doing it.  You BENEFIT from the system you seem to hate so much.  

 

Also you can speak for yourself...but NOBODY ELSE.  Since there are plenty of people advocating that a PvE server is a BAD IDEA, you claim that EVERYONE wants a PvE server is at best a LIE.  AT BEST.

 

Sorry buddy but Node War / Siege is not open world PvP.

Also 90+% of the players that participate there play ranged classes.

I am talking about real open world PvP.

If you ever played Aion you would know what open world PvP means.

In Aion each kill you make steal points from your opponent and increases your points.

What you get when you PK a random person in BDO?

NOTHING!

 

RBF gives you 4 million silver per 10+ minutes and 6 million silver if you win.

That's pocket change, when you can grind PvE and make x2+ times more money by killing mobs while doing PvE.

 

People advocating PvE server as a bad idea are the whales that like to kill noobs with just 1 skill and think they are skilled in the game.

 

Pearl Abyss could just make an IN GAME survei - poll with 30 days period of time, asking if players want a PvE only server or not.

You know why they never did that simple survei all these years?

Because noob whales that spent big $ to the game like to kill noobs and developers make money out of them.

They don't give a F about f2p players.

That's why.

 

 

 

Last Edit : Apr 17, 2021, 20:13 (UTC)
# 248
On: Apr 16, 2021, 21:02 (UTC), Written by Retteo

Allow a higher level intellect to teach you how to improve your cognitive abilities.

 

"seeing that I have one char that's 64 and one that's 63(xp swap from mystic to nova) shows that I grind... alot.."

Think about this.  Think about how the game works.  And afterwards you can reply with a thank you for the enlightenment and correcting you on this.

 

Think about this FIRST though.  A level 56 should be able to tell you this.  (thus busting any theory of credibility based on in game stats)

You could have achieved the same thing with virtually ZERO play time and simply standing AFK at a training dummy.

 

Thus, there is NO credibilty by your level.  You know what it takes to know that?  NOT a character level, but a BASIC level of INTELLIGENCE.

 

Also even if you mindlessly grind for 10,000 hours it would essentially establish NOTHING in your ability to discuss issues or topics here.

 

Additionally, if you THOUGHT about it.  You might come to the conclusion that somone could PAY CASH for dramatically increased exp rates.  There are MULTIPLE items in the game that effect this.

Lets correct you on a few things here is it possible to dummy train straight to 64 sure absolutly if you did nothing else in the game but smack dummies 24 hours a day and used your credit card to sell outfits didnt play anything else in BDO would take you about 100 days to hit 62 at a cost of between 1.2-2.5 bil depending on the xp buffs running, bells ( conciderng bells are only recently oasis chests plentiful) majority of previous bells were on arsha so if your lucky and got best XP 62-63 will take about 6-9 months (again combat books and xp most xp will be earned on the weekend) at this point you would have to do something in game to earn $$$ becouse 62-63 will cost over 4bil then going from 63-64 before recent 1000xp event is close to 12 months and a cost of 7bil + at any point you have to take time to earn $$$ to pay for combat books your loosing daily xp.

Now concidering dummies came out end of 2018 and previously with old xp system before update using dummies was not worth the money post XP soft cap increase it was more efficiant BUT that stating that IF  you started dummies in 2019 and did nothing else but dummy train for almost 2 years or objectivly since dummies came out you would with this XP event have 1 char possibly close to 64  but there is no one that i know of that has done nothing in this game for a year and a half other than log in and hit dummies.

 

That said my main is 25% to 65 and my alt 63 was 87% to 64 Now you can state that anyone can do it on dummies maybe 1 char but not 2 without any serious effort in grinding. I should also point out that my 1st main was a witch and she has Guru15 fishing well your not gonna get guru fishing in 2 months soooo obviously i was not AFK dummy training until recently.

 

witch

 

Most things take time in this game and nothing comes for free, your eather Whaleing it or your grinding /life skill for gear in 2 years since this game started dummie training unless your dropping serious RL cash on BDO to buy everything one way or another you wont be on those dummies to make money or else places like Tree's and leeachers would not be a thing.

 

But hey nice to know someone that doesnt even have an account thinks so little of the work i have put in but i guess if you watch Youtube videos on BDO you can become a master at anything.

Last Edit : Apr 17, 2021, 20:45 (UTC)
# 249
On: Apr 17, 2021, 16:43 (UTC), Written by Prokaizer

 

Sorry buddy but Node War / Siege is not open world PvP.

Also 90+% of the players that participate there play ranged classes.

I am talking about real open world PvP.

If you ever played Aion you would know what open world PvP means.

In Aion each kill you make steal points from your opponent and increases your points.

What you get when you PK a random person in BDO?

NOTHING!

 

RBF gives you 4 million silver per 10+ minutes and 6 million silver if you win.

That's pocket change, when you can grind PvE and make x2+ times more money by killing mobs while doing PvE.

 

People advocating PvE server as a bad idea are the whales that like to kill noobs with just 1 skill and think they are skilled in the game.

 

Pearl Abyss could just make an IN GAME survei - poll with 30 days period of time, asking if players want a PvE only server or not.

You know why they never did that simple survei all these years?

Because noob whales that spent big $ to the game like to kill noobs and developers make money out of them.

They don't give a F about f2p players.

That's why.

 

 

 

BWHAHAHAHAHA...I'm a whale now?  I spend less than 5 bucks a month on this game averaged out.  Yes I DO spend some money because I like the game...but didn't realize 5 bucks a month made me a whale in this day and age. I suppose for a F2P leech, anyone who spends any money may seem like a whale...but if you are F2P player, you should be 

 

So...wait, you WANT this game to reward PvP and PKing more?  The base server is basically a PvE server as it stands.  

 

I don't actually engage in openworld PvP much...nor do I like a game that actively encourages it.   I am a PvE person for the most part.  I wanna be left alone and do my thing and until the seasonal servers, I was calling for a PvE only server.  You know what the seasonal PvE server taught me?  That having no PvP is a BAD IDEA.  PvP with all the limitations that there is what keeps the vast majority of player interactions in this game polite.  Grinding in seasonal was a mess.  It was terrible with people grinding over each other.  If they are in a guild that is deccable and they are not protected, you had AN option sure...after 10 min for the decc to go through.  

 

So yeah basically you got EVERYTHING wrong.  Happens when you can't use your brain and the best your argument can be is to lie flat out.  I would ask if you ever get tired of being wrong...but considering you want base all your judgement on baseless assumptions, I'm gonna go with no.

Last Edit : Apr 17, 2021, 23:30 (UTC)
# 250
On: Apr 17, 2021, 20:45 (UTC), Written by ColdNapalm

BWHAHAHAHAHA...I'm a whale now?  I spend less than 5 bucks a month on this game averaged out.  Yes I DO spend some money because I like the game...but didn't realize 5 bucks a month made me a whale in this day and age. I suppose for a F2P leech, anyone who spends any money may seem like a whale...but if you are F2P player, you should be 

 

So...wait, you WANT this game to reward PvP and PKing more?  The base server is basically a PvE server as it stands.  

 

I don't actually engage in openworld PvP much...nor do I like a game that actively encourages it.   I am a PvE person for the most part.  I wanna be left alone and do my thing and until the seasonal servers, I was calling for a PvE only server.  You know what the seasonal PvE server taught me?  That having no PvP is a BAD IDEA.  PvP with all the limitations that there is what keeps the vast majority of player interactions in this game polite.  Grinding in seasonal was a mess.  It was terrible with people grinding over each other.  If they are in a guild that is deccable and they are not protected, you had AN option sure...after 10 min for the decc to go through.  

 

So yeah basically you got EVERYTHING wrong.  Happens when you can't use your brain and the best your argument can be is to lie flat out.  I would ask if you ever get tired of being wrong...but considering you want base all your judgement on baseless assumptions, I'm gonna go with no.

 

Your ego is SO big and you think that i am talking to you lol.

I used the word "they" and i was generaly speaking.

No1 gives a flying mosquito about how much money you spent on this game.

 

Since the game doesn't give us even 1 silver per PK, why would any of us bother with a useless open world PvP system and waste our time killing or getting killed by the same person over and over again and waste our time fighting for ZERO profit?

 

So you don't actively do PvP, but you are against a PvE only server. . .okay.

You really make no sense buddy.

 

Here is something you should consider before you spread BS : "If you don't like the PvE server, don't play on it?"

It's like the Arsha.

You don't like Arsha?

Don't play on Arsha.

Your logic is this : "because i am vegeterian, you should not eat meat either".

Well no one is forcing you to eat meat, but here you are crying about a PvE server, when no1 is forcing you to play on it.

 

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