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Sorry, but the PvP system is why I don't enjoy BDO
Apr 10, 2021, 06:24 (UTC)
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# 271
On: Apr 19, 2021, 22:39 (UTC), Written by PeaceInChaos

Why are all the people with level set to Private or people who don't even link their account the BDO Haters, downing the game, downing others, and making wild suggestions like a PVE only version of BDO with mobs?

 

While people who willingly show their level, lifeskills, and/or have reportedly high-end gear all want the game to maintain it's roots, while making improvements, of course?

 

Locking out / drop rate reduction are reasonings out of pity.  PVE Only shouldn't exist in BDO.  Season showed just that.  Taken down for rework.  Either didn't make money, or just not developed well, or both -- either way, this was the closest thing to PVE only you BDO Hate Club had, and it got taken down to rework, implying, it wasn't good enough.

 

You said it yourself, Fact > Feeling.  Fact = Season failed in the big picture.

 

PVE only with mob grinding is just bad, and is another version of this PVX game.  Lifeskill server, I could probably get behind because Lifeskilling isn't combat related.  Grinding mobs is.  Keep combat related things combat related, so if you're into combat by fighting mobs, you better be ready for combat fighting other players -- or else, you're playing the wrong game.  Monster Hunter is a great game for fighting monsters wtih no PVP.  Play that. 

 

BDO is PVX.  Make it BETTER and KEEP it that way!!!  We play BDO for the sandbox-y, PVX, do what you want when you want vibe -- we don't play ESO or WoW!!!

It's just your feelings that make you cry over Seasons though.  You don't have any actual basis for making ridiculous statements such as

" PVE Only shouldn't exist in BDO.  Season showed just that."

 

What a shty and pathetic thing to say.  Out of all the aspects of the Seaonsal Server you want to cry about the PVE and deem it the reason for it's failure (while you only assume it's a failure because they delayed a season).

 

Quit your constant whinning and lock yourself to Arsha.  You don't need to be concerned about any other servers.

Practice what you preach.  You want to force PVP on everyone and you can't even comit to a PVP server yourself.

 

In fact all you ever do it whine about the way YOU want things to be, not what's best for everyone else.

 

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Last Edit : Apr 19, 2021, 22:53 (UTC)
# 272
On: Apr 17, 2021, 12:49 (UTC), Written by Prokaizer

 

And that's the reason why everyone keep saying that BDO is PvE game and not a PvP game.

Because the PvP is a waste of time and gives you ZERO reward for your time invested in it.

You can kill 1 million people and what your reward will be?

Negative Karma NICE!

You will get 0 silver in your bank account after 1 million PK's.

Oh and not only that, you might even reverse progression by doing it!

Isn't that fun?

As you can see the PvP in this game is completely pointless and that's why everyone and their mom is asking for PvE servers.

 

"Everyone"?  Uhh...BDO is PVX bro.  It's PVE, it's PVP, it's RP, it's AFK, it's all these things rolled into one seamless experience.  And that's what makes it different than other MMO's and why it's great.  To remove even one of the aspects from even one server is a literal nerf of the game.

 

Improvements can be made, like addressing how Karma works, but that's not the "easy" solution.  PVE Only, to me, is like the "easy" solution, the "lazy" one.  Instead of tackling the root of he issue, just make this band-aid and hope it works.  Luckily, the devs aren't dumb like Archage devs, BDO is still going strong, hopefully, they can introduce more content and fixes to make it even better.

 

"PVP is a waste of time" -- don't you know how many people ENJOY PVP in BDO?  "Waste of time", when in order to defend your spot requires PVP?

 

"Everyone and their mom is asking for PVE servers" -- Not convinced.  If I may speculate, it's the new players, the low geared, inexperienced, unknowledgable and PVP-averse that do.  Everyone I speak to in-game = even pure lifeskillers, like the fact OW PVP "can" happen.  It's part of what makes a sandbox, a sandbox, and BDO is pretty sandbox-y. 

 

You're literally asking for a nerf to the game, not surprised though, you've been around since Kakao forum and you ALWAYS threw shade at the game.

 

Again, BDO is PVX.  PVE and PVP go hand in hand in this game.  It's not supposed to be a candy-land, happy-go-lucky, wonderland 24/7.  If that's what you're looking for, may I suggest Barbie Horse Game or Teletubbies game?

Last Edit : Apr 19, 2021, 22:54 (UTC)
# 273
On: Apr 19, 2021, 22:50 (UTC), Written by Retteo

It's just your feelings that make you cry over Seasons though.  You don't have any actual basis for making ridiculous statements such as

" PVE Only shouldn't exist in BDO.  Season showed just that."

 

What a shty and pathetic thing to say.  Out of all the aspects of the Seaonsal Server you want to cry about the PVE and deem it the reason for it's failure (while you only assume it's a failure because they delayed a season).

 

Season was taken down to be reworked.

 

Rework implies something isn't working as intended, so needs to be fixed.

 

"PVE Only shouldn't exist in BDO.  Season showed just that."

 

Get reked noob.

Last Edit : Apr 19, 2021, 22:56 (UTC)
# 274
On: Apr 17, 2021, 20:04 (UTC), Written by ReconKangas

Lets correct you on a few things here is it possible to dummy train straight to 64 sure absolutly if you did nothing else in the game but smack dummies 24 hours a day and used your credit card to sell outfits didnt play anything else in BDO would take you about 100 days to hit 62 at a cost of between 1.2-2.5 bil depending on the xp buffs running, bells ( conciderng bells are only recently oasis chests plentiful) majority of previous bells were on arsha so if your lucky and got best XP 62-63 will take about 6-9 months (again combat books and xp most xp will be earned on the weekend) at this point you would have to do something in game to earn $$ becouse 62-63 will cost over 4bil then going from 63-64 before recent 1000xp event is close to 12 months and a cost of 7bil + at any point you have to take time to earn $$ to pay for combat books your loosing daily xp.

Now concidering dummies came out end of 2018 and previously with old xp system before update using dummies was not worth the money post XP soft cap increase it was more efficiant BUT that stating that IF  you started dummies in 2019 and did nothing else but dummy train for almost 2 years or objectivly since dummies came out you would with this XP event have 1 char possibly close to 64  but there is no one that i know of that has done nothing in this game for a year and a half other than log in and hit dummies.

 

That said my main is 25% to 65 and my alt 63 was 87% to 64 Now you can state that anyone can do it on dummies maybe 1 char but not 2 without any serious effort in grinding. I should also point out that my 1st main was a witch and she has Guru15 fishing well your not gonna get guru fishing in 2 months soooo obviously i was not AFK dummy training until recently.

 

witch

 

Most things take time in this game and nothing comes for free, your eather Whaleing it or your grinding /life skill for gear in 2 years since this game started dummie training unless your dropping serious RL cash on BDO to buy everything one way or another you wont be on those dummies to make money or else places like Tree's and leeachers would not be a thing.

 

But hey nice to know someone that doesnt even have an account thinks so little of the work i have put in but i guess if you watch Youtube videos on BDO you can become a master at anything.

This is why credibility matters.  I notice all the BDO Haters are all Private or low levels on everything.  Maybe a few high level guys, but they're rare.  Most of the high level guys like BDO as PVX.

 

And your credibility helped me in-game.  Because of your tips from your experience, I was able to purchase a PEN Accessory recently.  HUGE gain for me....never would I thought I'd have a PEN GOLD ACCESSORY this year, but with your advice, I now do.  Your experience and explaining it to me has helped tremendously, so I say this a lot, but thanks, Recon.

Last Edit : Apr 19, 2021, 22:58 (UTC)
# 275
On: Apr 19, 2021, 22:54 (UTC), Written by PeaceInChaos

Season was taken down to be reworked.

 

Rework implies something isn't working as intended, so needs to be fixed.

 

"PVE Only shouldn't exist in BDO.  Season showed just that."

 

Get reked noob.

Does anyone see how blatantly stupid this is?  Seasonal Servers have 1,000 problems.  You just want to cry about PVP, but you won't even go play a PVP game lol.

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Last Edit : Apr 19, 2021, 23:02 (UTC)
# 276
On: Apr 19, 2021, 22:56 (UTC), Written by PeaceInChaos

This is why credibility matters.  I notice all the BDO Haters are all Private or low levels on everything.  Maybe a few high level guys, but they're rare.  Most of the high level guys like BDO as PVX.

 

And your credibility helped me in-game.  Because of your tips from your experience, I was able to purchase a PEN Accessory recently.  HUGE gain for me....never would I thought I'd have a PEN GOLD ACCESSORY this year, but with your advice, I now do.  Your experience and explaining it to me has helped tremendously, so I say this a lot, but thanks, Recon.

HAHHAHAHHA the community doesn't give a damn about your PEN accessory.  No wonder you desparately need forced PVP so badly.

You're afraid of being irrelevant and having no impact on others.

 

BTW at what level does all of the garbage bones spews somehow become "good advice" rofl.

You should listen to ME KID.  I out level and gear you.  So my WORDS automatically TRUMP yours.

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Last Edit : Apr 19, 2021, 23:31 (UTC)
# 277
On: Apr 19, 2021, 23:02 (UTC), Written by Retteo

HAHHAHAHHA the community doesn't give a damn about your PEN accessory.  No wonder you desparately need forced PVP so badly.

You're afraid of being irrelevant and having no impact on others.

 

BTW at what level does all of the garbage bones spews somehow become "good advice" rofl.

You should listen to ME KID.  I out level and gear you.  So my WORDS automatically TRUMP yours.

Lmao.  Yeah they do.  I posted a thread here flexing it, many people came in to congratulate here.  On top of my friends in game :3

 

Show your level, class and main's name to prove it.

 

You won't.  You'll continue spewing non-sense from a non-linked account.  657 messages all from a unverified forum account.  You going for a record?

 

Meet me in game then.

 

You won't xD you just want to bullsh*t people from the safety of the internet xD I mean, c'mon.  When you make three separte forum accounts, dafuq you up to?

 

If there's one thing I'm weary of, it's BDO reducing in overall quality and actually dying due to bad suggestions.  Hence, why I will always be 100% against pure PVE server with mobs in BDO.  If the devs decide to do it, I'll see how it goes.  Season was their test run, perceivably.  And it failed.  Bottom line.

Last Edit : Apr 19, 2021, 23:32 (UTC)
# 278
On: Apr 19, 2021, 22:53 (UTC), Written by PeaceInChaos

"PVP is a waste of time" -- don't you know how many people ENJOY PVP in BDO?  "Waste of time", when in order to defend your spot requires PVP?

 

"Everyone and their mom is asking for PVE servers" -- Not convinced.  If I may speculate, it's the new players, the low geared, inexperienced, unknowledgable and PVP-averse that do.  Everyone I speak to in-game = even pure lifeskillers, like the fact OW PVP "can" happen.  It's part of what makes a sandbox, a sandbox, and BDO is pretty sandbox-y. 

 

Again, BDO is PVX.  PVE and PVP go hand in hand in this game.  It's not supposed to be a candy-land, happy-go-lucky, wonderland 24/7.  If that's what you're looking for, may I suggest Barbie Horse Game or Teletubbies game?

 

Yes PvP is a complete waste of time.

If each open world PK gave me 500.000 to my inventory, then yes i would be happy with an open world PvP game, because i would be rewarded by doing it.

Now the only thing i get from killing another person is negative Karma.

 

Who enjoys BDO's PvP? People with grab class? People with permanent I-frames like you? Leave your sorc, reroll to Maehwa for a year and then we talk again about your great BDO PvP experience lol.

 

There is an easy solution to see who want's PvE server and whose not.

In game survei with 30 days period of time (Duplicate accounts excluded and will be punished with in game ban).

Also PA could sent e-mail to each account letting them know about the poll.

 

Yeap a very nice PvX game you got there mister.

A game that doesn't even have a SINGLE quest that rewards you for killing other players in the open field.

 

Also stick to the topic and stop derailing it with what my post history used to look like.

And by the way speaking about my post history in the old forums, i used to have x2 times more likes than my posts if that means something.

Last Edit : Apr 19, 2021, 23:41 (UTC)
# 279
On: Apr 19, 2021, 23:29 (UTC), Written by Prokaizer

 

Yes PvP is a complete waste of time.

If each open world PK gave me 500.000 to my inventory, then yes i would be happy with an open world PvP game, because i would be rewarded by doing it.

Now the only thing i get from killing another person is negative Karma.

 

Who enjoys BDO's PvP? People with grab class? People with permanent I-frames like you? Leave your sorc, reroll to Maehwa for a year and then we talk again about your great BDO PvP experience lol.

 

There is an easy solution to see who want's PvE server and whose not.

In game survei with 30 days period of time (Duplicate accounts excluded and will be punished with in game ban).

 

Yeap a very nice PvX game you got there mister.

A game that doesn't even have a SINGLE quest that rewards you for killing other players in the open field.

 

Also stick to the topic and stop derailing it with what my post history used to look like.

And by the way speaking about my post history in the old forums, i used to have x2 times more likes than my posts if that means something.

Successfully defending your spot, defending your claim, is what you "win".  PVE and PVP go hand in hand when in the open world, always has.  Maewha is just underpowered at the moment, mostly due to how the class is affected by slow stacking, but I know Maewha's who love PVP.  DragonUZI for instance.

 

This topic will always have opposing sides.

 

Bottom line:  The devs have specified that PVE only is not part of their plans for BDO.  Never has been, and they've even offered players ways to do PVE only, like Seasonal and Olvia, all of which is not effective in maintaining players, in this long-term, "endless progression", MMO.  Hence, why both of these things were taken down or reworked.

Last Edit : Apr 19, 2021, 23:56 (UTC)
# 280
On: Apr 19, 2021, 23:40 (UTC), Written by PeaceInChaos

Successfully defending your spot, defending your claim, is what you "win".  PVE and PVP go hand in hand when in the open world, always has.  Maewha is just underpowered at the moment, mostly due to how the class is affected by slow stacking, but I know Maewha's who love PVP.  DragonUZI for instance.

 

This topic will always have opposing sides.

 

Bottom line:  The devs have specified that PVE only is not part of their plans for BDO.  Never has been, and they've even offered players ways to do PVE only, like Seasonal and Olvia, all of which is not effective in maintaining players, in this long-term, "endless progression", MMO.  Hence, why both of these things were taken down or reworked.

 

"Successfully defending your spot, defending your claim, is what you "win"

 

So you admit that you win thin air by doing PvP.

If there was not PvP at all (PvE server), you wouldn't need to defend your spot in the first place.

Instead of PvPing, you would have to learn how to outgrind your opponents.

 

IDK about DragonUZI since i never met that guy before, but he has what full PEN caphrased gear?

So even if his class is garbage he get carried by his gear.

If i remember well i showed a short video of him somewhere being completely AFK with t4 fairy + infinity pot and the other guy couldn't kill him.

Because gear > skill in BDO.

 

Of course developers state that BDO is not a PvE only game.

Who you think is going to buy all of these costumes to melt them for PEN attempts?

Whales like to kill gearlets and think they have big @@.

If all of the gearlet seals move to the PvE only server, what will the orca whales hunt after?

 

 

 

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