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Does Fallen Gods Armor apply the Blackstar set
Apr 10, 2021, 20:39 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Apr 16, 2021, 16:42 (UTC)
# 11
On: Apr 16, 2021, 16:20 (UTC), Written by Werbs

2 easy clicks, hahahahahah.  OMG you never did the upgrade then huh?

30 durability lost on every click, 2 fail stacks gaind on every click, chance to succeed as low as pen, and that is just going for PRI, chance to succeed duo is about the same as Pen blackstar, with IIRC 6k crons (12b) per click and no fail stack gain.  Not to mention the cost of a click even if it succeeds.  I love when people who have no exprience in something makes a claim, it is actually hillarious.

I am pretty sure you are thinking about something else.

60 FS gives you 14% at 0 to PRI.
103 FS give you 11% at Pri to DUO

It's easy Clicks.

Last Edit : Apr 21, 2021, 00:15 (UTC)
# 12
On: Apr 15, 2021, 18:51 (UTC), Written by Astronaut

Like intorducing Accuracy Accesory turned most Evasion builds in to meme. 


 

Meme? Hmmm.... And when one ninja or striker is able to withstand an attack of 5 or more people - this is not a meme? When you increase your evasion you still get DP bonuses - this is not a meme? And when you increase accuracy, you lose both AP and AP bonuses - this is not a meme?! What the fсk is this?

Last Edit : Apr 21, 2021, 01:19 (UTC)
# 13
On: Apr 16, 2021, 16:42 (UTC), Written by Astronaut

I am pretty sure you are thinking about something else.

60 FS gives you 14% at 0 to PRI.
103 FS give you 11% at Pri to DUO

It's easy Clicks.

 

60 FS gives a 14% to go from base to PRI, and people fail it 20 times in a row.  Just because going to Duo is 11% at 103 stack doesn't mean it's going to go at an 11% rate.  Cronning going for Tri with a 254 stack is a 13.2% chance and the game makes you agree to using a "higher" than suggested stack to do that.  A 280 stack going for Tet is listed as a 5.8% chance, which is also false and the game says the stack is "too high" for the item.  Dude went on the Global lab got a pen fallen god with a 1024 stack.  That's not exactly an EASY click.

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Last Edit : Apr 22, 2021, 00:33 (UTC)
# 14
On: Apr 21, 2021, 01:19 (UTC), Written by Werbs

 

60 FS gives a 14% to go from base to PRI, and people fail it 20 times in a row.  Just because going to Duo is 11% at 103 stack doesn't mean it's going to go at an 11% rate.  Cronning going for Tri with a 254 stack is a 13.2% chance and the game makes you agree to using a "higher" than suggested stack to do that.  A 280 stack going for Tet is listed as a 5.8% chance, which is also false and the game says the stack is "too high" for the item.  Dude went on the Global lab got a pen fallen god with a 1024 stack.  That's not exactly an EASY click.

In our first example: 20 times = 600 Meme Fragments in repairs = 1.2 Billion.
Pri Fallen God Armor = C16 PEN Boss.
C10-C16 = 8 232 Caphras = 21 Billion.

You are saving lots of money either way even if you stay as PRI Fallen God. 
This is why i think they pulled the plug on it. Too easy

Last Edit : Apr 24, 2021, 21:38 (UTC)
# 15

well I just wanna say 

 

YES, 2/3/4 set effect in Blackstar set is fit with Gods Armor.

 

Last Edit : Apr 24, 2021, 22:39 (UTC)
# 16
On: Apr 22, 2021, 00:33 (UTC), Written by Astronaut

In our first example: 20 times = 600 Meme Fragments in repairs = 1.2 Billion.
Pri Fallen God Armor = C16 PEN Boss.
C10-C16 = 8 232 Caphras = 21 Billion.

You are saving lots of money either way even if you stay as PRI Fallen God. 
This is why i think they pulled the plug on it. Too easy

You forget that it takes 1 hard, 1 sharp, a mass of pure magic AND 10 capharas stones every click, so no it's not 1.2 billion in mem fragments alone, it is 35m for the Flawless Chaotic Black Stone and 30 mem frags per failure.  That is 95m per click for Pri, then 95m per click and 1,500 cron stones for duo plus the 4b silver the 100 stack is worth.  Yeah Pri is a "cheap" upgrade at only 1.8b, but then you have to keep paying that 1.8b to get it to go duo if you cron (with crons from CM), or you pay the 1.8b trying to get it back to Pri.  Getting it to Go Duo is another 20ish clicks.  You are paying about 35b to upgrade pri to Duo, not sure how you figure 35 billion is "2 easy clicks".  Sure you can Caphras your Rednose to C20 for 36.4b but then you can't go any higher and it's rednose.  Or I guess you can get a Dim Tree to C20 and spend 40.5b but then like I just said, you can't go any higher anymore.  

 

Lets say you do get fallen god to Duo, now you have to get it to Tri to progress, and that is 2.2 billion (if you melt costumes from the CM) per click and use a 10b Fail Stack (170 stack).

 

 

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Last Edit : Apr 24, 2021, 22:41 (UTC)
# 17
On: Apr 24, 2021, 21:38 (UTC), Written by NASEN

well I just wanna say 

 

YES, 2/3/4 set effect in Blackstar set is fit with Gods Armor.

 

When did this change, it didn't function that way in February?

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Last Edit : Apr 25, 2021, 05:48 (UTC)
# 18
On: Apr 24, 2021, 22:39 (UTC), Written by Werbs

You forget that it takes 1 hard, 1 sharp, a mass of pure magic AND 10 capharas stones every click, so no it's not 1.2 billion in mem fragments alone, it is 35m for the Flawless Chaotic Black Stone and 30 mem frags per failure.  That is 95m per click for Pri, then 95m per click and 1,500 cron stones for duo plus the 4b silver the 100 stack is worth.  Yeah Pri is a "cheap" upgrade at only 1.8b, but then you have to keep paying that 1.8b to get it to go duo if you cron (with crons from CM), or you pay the 1.8b trying to get it back to Pri.  Getting it to Go Duo is another 20ish clicks.  You are paying about 35b to upgrade pri to Duo, not sure how you figure 35 billion is "2 easy clicks".  Sure you can Caphras your Rednose to C20 for 36.4b but then you can't go any higher and it's rednose.  Or I guess you can get a Dim Tree to C20 and spend 40.5b but then like I just said, you can't go any higher anymore.  

 

Lets say you do get fallen god to Duo, now you have to get it to Tri to progress, and that is 2.2 billion (if you melt costumes from the CM) per click and use a 10b Fail Stack (170 stack).

 

 

I wouldn't use same figures for the PRI-DUO. Your 20 Fails example i would cotegarise as extremly rare. I hit my first TET BS on a first try with just under 9%, second one was 7 attempts with just 7%+. And here we are starting with 11%. 20 Fails sounds very unrealistic or extremly unlucky. 
People would have been doing Fallen God for profit, like they do TET BS for profit right now, but the Price is too low. Should have been 40-60-80 Billions instead of 45- 48 -52. But this prices are mostlikely represent their true value via Enchanting, cause it that much cheaper than C16-C20 PEN Boss. 

Last Edit : Apr 25, 2021, 08:59 (UTC)
# 19
On: Apr 25, 2021, 05:48 (UTC), Written by Astronaut

I wouldn't use same figures for the PRI-DUO. Your 20 Fails example i would cotegarise as extremly rare. I hit my first TET BS on a first try with just under 9%, second one was 7 attempts with just 7%+. And here we are starting with 11%. 20 Fails sounds very unrealistic or extremly unlucky. 
People would have been doing Fallen God for profit, like they do TET BS for profit right now, but the Price is too low. Should have been 40-60-80 Billions instead of 45- 48 -52. But this prices are mostlikely represent their true value via Enchanting, cause it that much cheaper than C16-C20 PEN Boss. 

The reason the prices are so low is because 3DP is not worth the 45b cost when they can put that silver into caphras in their other pen armors, towards their AP, towards getting Accuracy accessories.  It's not a priority.  Because the demand is so low and the cost is so high, no one buys them and no one lists them.  On NA 224 sales, with 1 in stock, compare that with 2216 flames of despair sales, if people were enhancing for profit, and it was actually profitable to do so, the number of fallen god sales would be a lot higher.

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Last Edit : Apr 25, 2021, 12:58 (UTC)
# 20
On: Apr 11, 2021, 23:27 (UTC), Written by Werbs

The delay is because Fallen God is a power creep, they need to let the other items catch up before they add the Helm, the Helm will come this summer and Gloves next fall.  Boots should be at the end of Spring.

 

O'dyllita was releaesd 6 months ago not a full year Accross the Globe.  Fallen God is not a forgotten thing, they added Elvia 3 months after Fallen God, I expect something to come out at the end of May telling us about Another piece of Fallen God or the Blackstar Boots.  I also expect to see 2 Different God lines, one for DR one for Evasion along with an HP Regen Version of the Fallen Guard Chest piece.

I 100% agree, I am expecting fallen god helm to be anounced around the same time as release of the winter region...

As far as moving forward i beleive that you may see as Fallen God main/awakening weapons before we get boots or gloves that power creep with back loaded DP/DR is going to need a AP counter as well the discussion though is it will require a c20 PEN bos or Pen BS to obtain and will most likely be one of the hardest quest items as well. (one of the main reasons i pushed my mainhand to c19) But who knows this is PA we are talking about.

 

On: Apr 16, 2021, 16:42 (UTC), Written by Astronaut

I am pretty sure you are thinking about something else.

60 FS gives you 14% at 0 to PRI.
103 FS give you 11% at Pri to DUO

It's easy Clicks.

Obviously you have never enhanced fallen god, it is not 2 simple clicks......

 

Over all fallen god saves money in terms of caphras once at duo, unless your a Chad out of all of our guildies that have enhanced including myself it has cost us litterally 25+ 60-100fs just to get out of base without spending 2 bil in mem frags. Most duo attemps have not landed a duo until around 175fs-200fs mine was around 180 and i started with a 110(smacked base to duo a few times).

The best in our guild was 4 attempts to duo but there issue was getting out of Base they would make a 100FS out of a 70 just in attempts, myself and one other had the worst luck with fallen god mine cost me ~15 bil in mats(i.e. was 200 mil repair + 100mil per 3 hits) and loss of almost 80% off my over all FS i been working on for a year. Personally i Avg about 15-20 base to Pre hits(1.8 bil) before a Duo attempt and i was not the worst i watch a guildie burn the almost everthing he had in 1 night BOTH of us did this when the caphras market had 70k pre orders up.

 

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