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Guild War Decs
Mar 31, 2024, 03:25 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Mar 31, 2024, 03:25 (UTC)
# 1

Firstly I'd like to state I have been playing this game since open beta 2014. This may be my personal opinion but based off the numerous people i've had conversations with, I feel that open world PVP has been killed. Let me elaborate, the game use to allow guilds to freely declare wars on other guilds which allowed consistent pvp content for the players. Along with the increase in the karma rate for flagging and killing a player. 

What killed GvG pvp was because you could declare on a guild at any given time, and some of the player base believed they were being "bullied" out of their grind spots. Now in the game GvGs must be mutally agreed. This leaves players open to people being able to still grind over your spot, and an easier way to troll players. In my personal opinion the changes back fired, affecting the game negatively. 

The reason for this post is I'd like to hope that as the player base, our developers would listen to our pleads and statements in wanting a more positive gaming experience, and hoping that they revert or accomidate our opinions on how we feel about the game we play. Im posting this in hopes that the player base spreads the word and we won't be silenced in a game that we invest our hardern time and money to play. 

Thank you for your time (BRING BACK OG PVP)

Last Edit : Mar 31, 2024, 06:52 (UTC)
# 2

I agree that one sided deccs should not have been completely eliminated.  However, some one sided deccs were used to simply harass people over petty grudges, not grind spots.  I wish PA had simply put timers and cool downs on one sided deccs to allow for legitimate uses - protecting grind spots, not illigitimate ones - harassing people who aren't interrupting grinds.

Last Edit : Mar 31, 2024, 15:31 (UTC)
# 3
On: Mar 31, 2024, 06:52 (UTC), Written by Columba

I agree that one sided deccs should not have been completely eliminated.  However, some one sided deccs were used to simply harass people over petty grudges, not grind spots.  I wish PA had simply put timers and cool downs on one sided deccs to allow for legitimate uses - protecting grind spots, not illigitimate ones - harassing people who aren't interrupting grinds.

Arbritration would have solved the harrassment side of it but instead of creating a way for guilds to get out, as well as prove harrassment, they just removed the thing entirely. 

It's worse now because guilds that receive dec's can just choose when to accept them. You might send a dec out now and be ready to fight at the time you sent it, but they can literally wait and receive it at a later time when maybe your guys are not online. On top of that, they can just ignore dec's entirely. Maybe you're ready to throw down, but that doesn't matter because some will just ignore the dec.

The system's broken more now than ever. You rarely ever see new guild wars happening. OWPvP is now limited to flagging - which can lead you to being temp banned if you attack the wrong salty person, the now defunct War of the Roses - a dead game mode after 3 wars/6 weeks of uptime on NA, and node wars/siege.

Last Edit : Mar 31, 2024, 20:41 (UTC)
# 4

I believe open conversation is the best way to send a message to our developers to hear the pleads of the players. Anyone who sees this post please spread the word and have an open conversation. I would love for the developers to hear our pleads

Last Edit : Mar 31, 2024, 23:17 (UTC)
# 5
On: Mar 31, 2024, 15:31 (UTC), Written by TRNFloyd

Arbritration would have solved the harrassment side of it but instead of creating a way for guilds to get out, as well as prove harrassment, they just removed the thing entirely. 

It's worse now because guilds that receive dec's can just choose when to accept them. You might send a dec out now and be ready to fight at the time you sent it, but they can literally wait and receive it at a later time when maybe your guys are not online. On top of that, they can just ignore dec's entirely. Maybe you're ready to throw down, but that doesn't matter because some will just ignore the dec.

The system's broken more now than ever. You rarely ever see new guild wars happening. OWPvP is now limited to flagging - which can lead you to being temp banned if you attack the wrong salty person, the now defunct War of the Roses - a dead game mode after 3 wars/6 weeks of uptime on NA, and node wars/siege.

Well, if someone messages me that a member of my guild is messing their rotation, I will accept their decc.  Perhaps there are other things guild leaders could do like that.  I think officers should be able to accept guild deccs

Last Edit : Mar 31, 2024, 23:18 (UTC)
# 6
On: Mar 31, 2024, 15:31 (UTC), Written by TRNFloyd

Arbritration would have solved the harrassment side of it but instead of creating a way for guilds to get out, as well as prove harrassment, they just removed the thing entirely. 

It's worse now because guilds that receive dec's can just choose when to accept them. You might send a dec out now and be ready to fight at the time you sent it, but they can literally wait and receive it at a later time when maybe your guys are not online. On top of that, they can just ignore dec's entirely. Maybe you're ready to throw down, but that doesn't matter because some will just ignore the dec.

The system's broken more now than ever. You rarely ever see new guild wars happening. OWPvP is now limited to flagging - which can lead you to being temp banned if you attack the wrong salty person, the now defunct War of the Roses - a dead game mode after 3 wars/6 weeks of uptime on NA, and node wars/siege.

Yeah, or some other ways to allow legitimate one sided deccs without the abuse.  However, that takes work and thought......

Last Edit : Apr 1, 2024, 08:23 (UTC)
# 7

At the very least, they should allow guild staff, advisors, and secretaries to accept war decs.

The GM from my guild once had to log in while she had pneumonia to accept a war dec for a planned GvG. 

Last Edit : Apr 1, 2024, 12:57 (UTC)
# 8

An easy fix would be making guilds participating in T3+ nodewars being war declarable without any restrictions for 7 days since they placed the fort. 
It wouldn't change anything for people that are in PvE guilds, or trying out nodewars in T1 and T2 and it would bring back the OG spontaneous PvP for the guilds that actually want to do PvP.
It's always preferable to provide options rather than omitting content to cater to a specific percentage.

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Last Edit : Apr 2, 2024, 20:58 (UTC)
# 9
On: Apr 1, 2024, 08:23 (UTC), Written by Xiomaro

At the very least, they should allow guild staff, advisors, and secretaries to accept war decs.

The GM from my guild once had to log in while she had pneumonia to accept a war dec for a planned GvG. 

Totall agree. I trust my advisor and officers implicitly.  They know what to do.

Last Edit : Apr 5, 2024, 18:05 (UTC)
# 10
On: Mar 31, 2024, 23:17 (UTC), Written by Columba

Well, if someone messages me that a member of my guild is messing their rotation, I will accept their decc.  Perhaps there are other things guild leaders could do like that.  I think officers should be able to accept guild deccs

In response to that, you may say that you would accept a decc from another guild, however that still segregates the idea of free open world pvp. In a sense im basically asking someone for permission to kill them in a PvP game

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