As I mentioned, if players get on pure pve servers because they think they can get more money thanks to their gear, it is not even related to the fact of loving owpvp or not : it's called bribery.

And it's more likely to bribe players with a real good gear, you know, the ones we are told to attack instead of doing "baby seal clubbing" with undergeared players. (not my words, obviously, but that's the fallacious argument we hear a lot).

And about the number of arguments, no. We've been talking a lot about it, gave a lot of solid arguments, and most of our warnings about some changes (Marni for example) became true.

But that's pretty sad to see that we warned them, we were factually right, and devs keep going in the wrong direction on some points. 

You know you can still get griefed on a PvE server? Griefers will just steal your mobs instead of killing you there. If people want to mess with you in a sandbox mmo they will find ways, no matter how restricted the PvP is, even if there's no PvP at all. If you can't stand the idea of interacting with other players, Marni realm offers that every odd hour.

This is exactly the issue with the current PvP system.
If I show up to your grindzone, you can't even feed me to mobs anymore. You can't declare war on my guild. And if you kill me, you lose karma.

There is nothing anybody can do to stop somebody from just griefing, shy of marni realm.

Im telling u  before hand, if they make PvE Only Server just cause u cannot except the Fact u can be killed.

I will make it my Mission in life to come to ur PvE Server and Grief the living shit out of u and there is not a single thing u can do about it.

"Hey let me do my Horse Training in full Godmode cause im too - iQ to go to Duvencrune and do it in Safezone".

"Hey let me hunt my Blue Whales so i make alot of money with 0 Risk". 

Just dumb statements.

oh well, if they want to waste their time trying to grind over someone else it hurts them just as much as the person they're griefing by cutting into their own silver/hr

How would you grief, though? Fish next to me? You are most welcome to join!

Place your farms on top of mine?

We can also share the same path when horse training. 

Why shouldn't you be able to whale hunt in peace?  The whales are buggy enough on their own and if you want money, you can go grind for more silver than you can get whaling.  But whaling is one of the group activities in the game where we're actually interacting with other players.  Why do you want to discourage people from doing that?

Also, why are you so bothered by people who just want to play the game in a different way than you?  There are 45 servers. 3 are PVP and 7 have some sort of restriction on accounts/characters.  That leaves 35 servers.

We can go back and forth all day about how many people want PVE servers, but if that number is higher than 3%, then having at least one would be warranted.

Hi Toes! :-)

Yes, they can.  But if some players would rather deal with that than being killed repeatedly, then having the choice is not a bad idea.  Nobody says all servers need to be PvE. In fact, if they make some servers PvE, then the PvP rules can be loosened up again for those who want it as well.