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The new enhancement system for Manos Acessory still ridiculous !!!
Apr 5, 2024, 11:23 (UTC)
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Apr 5, 2024, 11:23 (UTC)
# 1
Family Name: Paco
Region (NA/EU): EU
Suggestions/Comments:
Whoever developed this new system calculated all the items mentioned correctly?
Because the difference in accessories still ridiculous ..
To get a PEN Manos acc you have to fail 40x why more?!
In which the failstack is fixed 5% (which in itself is more difficult than a common accessory that uses failstack and cronstone)
In which case you can't even use cronstone it just disappears..
In which case you can't even use cronstone it just disappears..
To get a PEN Deboreka acessory you have to fail 20x
In which case the failstack isn't fixed !
Failstack of 200 is 10.5% every attempt!
Failstack of 250 is 13% every attempt!
Failstack of 250 is 13% every attempt!
In both cases, cronstone can be used to prevent the item from simply don't disappearing..
(Now we can also use J's hammer)
Let's see..
PEN Manos acessory (40x)
PEN Manos acessory currently in the EU server
PEN Manos acessory currently in the EU server
30b each
x
40 attempts
=
1200b (1.2 trillion) !!!
5% chance on all attempts !!!
Yes!!! Now I can make a PEN Manos accessory with 100% but... I will have to spend 8x the value of it on the market (150b maximum price)
Regular accessory (20x)
Deboreka PEN currently in the EU (with J's hammer)
27.5b each
x
20
=
550b
+10% on all attempts !!!
Yes!!! now I can make PEN deboreka with 100% but I will have to spend 2x its value on the market (300b maximum price on the central market)
Not to mention fallen god V 1000x attempts..
how ridiculous it is..
SADNESS..
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Apr 5, 2024, 11:49 (UTC)
# 2
PA doesnt care about lifeskillers. years of J hammers that cannot be used on any lifeskill gear, cronstones that cant be used on manos clothes/accs, not a single free lifeskiller outfit (atleast in my lifetime), 100% dependency on value pack because crafted meals/potions take insane amounts of space in the marketplace, kama blessing/old moon book are of much higher significance for lifeskillers, low silver/h overall with a few exceptions or niche market opportunities.
as a big thank you for those who didnt quit at this point they culled the endgame with the introduction of mastery crystals which made many pen manos clothes/tools obsolete.
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Apr 5, 2024, 12:00 (UTC)
# 3
Does the fact of not having PEN Manos affect your life skilling as much as not having your PEN accessories for your grind?
You're just seeing one part of the whole situation. You don't even need full PEN Manos to reach a really high mastery.
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Apr 5, 2024, 12:02 (UTC)
# 4
On: Apr 5, 2024, 11:49 (UTC), Written by Ricada
PA doesnt care about lifeskillers. years of J hammers that cannot be used on any lifeskill gear, cronstones that cant be used on manos clothes/accs, not a single free lifeskiller outfit (atleast in my lifetime), 100% dependency on value pack because crafted meals/potions take insane amounts of space in the marketplace, kama blessing/old moon book are of much higher significance for lifeskillers, low silver/h overall with a few exceptions or niche market opportunities.
as a big thank you for those who didnt quit at this point they culled the endgame with the introduction of mastery crystals which made many pen manos clothes/tools obsolete.
😅 😅
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Apr 5, 2024, 12:06 (UTC)
# 5
On: Apr 5, 2024, 12:00 (UTC), Written by Sadalsuud
Does the fact of not having PEN Manos affect your life skilling as much as not having your PEN accessories for your grind?
You're just seeing one part of the whole situation. You don't even need full PEN Manos to reach a really high mastery.
And u need PEN deboreka for what? pvp? did u see what they made with karma? they only kill the pvp ..
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Apr 5, 2024, 12:14 (UTC)
# 6
And yes, you need pen manos accessory to reach the 2k cap on certain lifeskills and not be dependent on using mastery crystals and instead use EXP crystals. Also you can combine weight with mastery for greater convenience than normal if you don't know.
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Apr 5, 2024, 12:24 (UTC)
# 7
This new system is epic fail.
BS pen enchant:
3670 crones x 3m per cron x 40 fails = 440b.
BS pen market price:
130b.
Conclusion: what is the point of enchantment and purchasing thousands of crons, if it is better to spend all our money simply on purchasing from the market.
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Apr 5, 2024, 12:39 (UTC)
# 8
On: Apr 5, 2024, 12:00 (UTC), Written by Sadalsuud
Does the fact of not having PEN Manos affect your life skilling as much as not having your PEN accessories for your grind?
You're just seeing one part of the whole situation. You don't even need full PEN Manos to reach a really high mastery.
Life skill gives you so little money that even in 10 years you will not pay back the purchase of a set of manos tet accessories, let alone a pen.
For me, life skills died when PA increased prices of manos by 300%.
Currently, trash gives 20-30 times more, and e.g. imperial cooking boxes have the same price as on the day they were added to the game.
In addition, the lack of an FS system and the use of crones is unfair.
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Apr 5, 2024, 12:30 (UTC)
# 9
I have never found any logic to these optimization rates for manos accessories..
I had already made suggestions on the old forum.
especially since at the time it only cost 50b....
they resolved the concern of the price but not the enhancement
Ok it's red accessories and not yellow but does that really matter today?
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Apr 5, 2024, 12:32 (UTC)
# 10
On: Apr 5, 2024, 12:24 (UTC), Written by Senemedar
This new system is epic fail.
BS pen enchant:
3670 crones x 3m per cron x 40 fails = 440b.
BS pen market price:
130b.
Conclusion: what is the point of enchantment and purchasing thousands of crons, if it is better to spend all our money simply on purchasing from the market.
sure
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