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Remove ghillie suits from RBF
Feb 19, 2021, 21:50 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Mar 11, 2021, 19:06 (UTC)
# 21

@GM's:  Please forgive my initial "heated" post!  I may have been tilted at the time of writing (who can blame me with posters like good 'ol non-linked account Retto over here, right? Jk jk)

 

I'll try to comment and post more positively and constructively!  Hopefully we can help make BDO be as good a game as it can be, together.  Thanks!

Last Edit : Mar 11, 2021, 20:13 (UTC)
# 22

Impossible to *fix*. its a too long feature with the paywall privilege.  thier cannot do anything about it without causing a big whale angry wave.

Playing on Lowest/optimal mode stay the best way to counter this feature.


In the best of all possible worlds this feature should have been a basic feature of the game.

Sadly it never has and will never change and it is better that way. even a simple change of mechanic for the Marking Reagent will piss off the whales.
The majority of people who spend for this privilege can spend few hundred-few thousand per month.
it is better to learn to play against than to complain about it. There are ailments which cannot be fixed. the guilies is one of them.


Last Edit : Mar 11, 2021, 21:21 (UTC)
# 23
On: Mar 11, 2021, 19:59 (UTC), Written by Catastigma

Impossible to *fix*. its a too long feature with the paywall privilege.  thier cannot do anything about it without causing a big whale angry wave.

Playing on Lowest/optimal mode stay the best way to counter this feature.


In the best of all possible worlds this feature should have been a basic feature of the game.

Sadly it never has and will never change and it is better that way. even a simple change of mechanic for the Marking Reagent will piss off the whales.
The majority of people who spend for this privilege can spend few hundred-few thousand per month.
it is better to learn to play against than to complain about it. There are ailments which cannot be fixed. the guilies is one of them.


Am not trying to "complain" per se, instead, hoping to point out a glaring flaw in our only queueable, instanced, organized, team-based, PVP mode.  Games like basketball, all players on either team use the same uniform.  League of Legends, a team-based PVP game, there isn't one person without name above their head.  So, aside from what you explained, about this being a clear money-grab and pay for advantage, it makes no sense at all to allow ghille in Red Battlefield.

 

And like I said, I deal with it.  Like we all have.  So if it doesn't change, then it's the same.  I'll still REK people in ghilles.  It's just the principle of the matter, that all.

Last Edit : Mar 11, 2021, 21:31 (UTC)
# 24
On: Mar 11, 2021, 19:02 (UTC), Written by PeaceInChaos

Of course it doesn't make sense to you.  It is you we're talking of.  Never said it "ruined" my RBF experience lmao, way to take things to the extreme there bud.

 

I'll dumb it down as much as I can for you, Vortexii.  I only do so for the sake of others who may be reading and may be confused by your disingenuous comment.

 

RBF = Instanced.  Queueable.  Organized.  Lamen's terms, it's in a setting similar to a team-sport, like basketball.

 

OWPVP = Non-instanced.  Non-queueable.  Non-organized.  Free for all.  Anything goes, gorilla-style warfare.

No, how about we address what you actually said.

 

"Being able to see your enemies name is much easier to track than enemies that don't have huge colored letters above their head.  People will argue that it's the same -- um....no it's not lol."

 

Your entire argument is clearly stated that it is an advantage.  You double down on that message.  You also accept that it is a paid advantage.

 

So allow me demonstrate my amazing abilities

If (it's a clear advantage in RBF)

     Then(it's also a clear advantage in OWPVP)

 

You don't seem to be concerned about it in OWPVP.  But I'm sure you will acknoldge and agree that the formula above is correct.

 

And please establish precisely what stat requirements or masteries are needed to evaluate this situation?

Would Artisan Farming be enough?  Or perhaps Master Sailing?

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Last Edit : Mar 12, 2021, 02:40 (UTC)
# 25
On: Mar 11, 2021, 21:29 (UTC), Written by Retteo

No, how about we address what you actually said.

 

"Being able to see your enemies name is much easier to track than enemies that don't have huge colored letters above their head.  People will argue that it's the same -- um....no it's not lol."

 

Your entire argument is clearly stated that it is an advantage.  You double down on that message.  You also accept that it is a paid advantage.

 

So allow me demonstrate my amazing abilities

If (it's a clear advantage in RBF)

     Then(it's also a clear advantage in OWPVP)

 

You don't seem to be concerned about it in OWPVP.  But I'm sure you will acknoldge and agree that the formula above is correct.

 

And please establish precisely what stat requirements or masteries are needed to evaluate this situation?

Would Artisan Farming be enough?  Or perhaps Master Sailing?

How about you display your character level, class and main character name?

 

Never said ghille wasn't an advantage in open world - it is.  What I am highlighting are the differences between Open World - a no holds barred, guerilla-style setting - to RBF - an instanced, organized, team-based mode, similar to a team sport, like basketball. 

 

Is your brain not capable of a level of comprehension to see what this means / implies, or are you going to continue being disingenuous?

 

BY THE WAY:

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Last Edit : Mar 15, 2021, 00:50 (UTC)
# 26

I definitely cant speak for everyone with a guilly suit but for me,a person who uses one I would gladly give it up if everyone else had to but I dont use it for an advantage,I use it so im not at a disadvantage.When players dye them dark red I can't see them because of color blindness.

 

I wish they would remove the hiding of the name from it though but currently you need one to even the playing field.

Last Edit : Mar 17, 2021, 12:53 (UTC)
# 27

Yeah they definetly should remove it, as it makes the already heavily lacking visual feedback even worse.

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Last Edit : Mar 18, 2021, 20:35 (UTC)
# 28

It's our only queueable PvP mode.  There is a point and meaning behind that statement, hopefully whoever reads it "gets it", because I don't know exactly how to communicate that underlying meaning.

 

It's like a team-sport, almost.  The closest thing we have to this aspect.  I think it should be as fair, balanced and equal as possible.  Yes, you can't really balance player gear-gaps, unless forcibly, and yes, you cannot balance ping, latency, skill, class balance, etc. --- But what you can balance is the fact that some players play with huge, brightly colored text and guild logos above their head, while others with ghille do not.  IDK how to explain how dumb I think this is, given the context of Red Battlefield.

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Last Edit : Mar 19, 2021, 19:05 (UTC)
# 30
On: Mar 18, 2021, 23:32 (UTC), Written by Retteo

That's an amazing example.

 

So what you are saying is, in RBF which has no consquences to dying using the Ghillie Suit it to much paid advantage and ruins the expeirence.

 

BUT

 

In an Open World environement where you can DESTROY a players expensive crystals and force them into losing exp, it's perfectly fine.

 

"So it makes no sense to me, aside from P2W advantages, to have ghillie suits functioning in RBF.  Open world, I understand."

Mhhhmmmmm

 

Sounds like you don't care about the community at all.

And as always you can't even answer basic simple question like what criteria is needed to have a discussion on the Ghillie Suit?  A number of RBF kills?  Level?  Gear Score?  What AP exactly does one need to have a valid point about the Ghillie?

Wrong again.

 

RBF = Team sport.

OW = Guerilla warfare.

 

Figure it out.  Or go troll another forum.

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