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UTC 9 : 23 May 16, 2024
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PVE, PVP, Karma & The Systems Between
Apr 9, 2024, 01:34 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Apr 13, 2024, 16:31 (UTC)
# 21
On: Apr 11, 2024, 06:51 (UTC), Written by Ponge85

This dislike comes from somewhere, you know? The things you mentioned, like a red waiting for the grind to finish and duel after, I never ever seen that; my experience with reds are: killing me to drop my buffs, then swapping channel when I get up, not even taking my spot; trying to feed my crystals to mobs (back when this was possible); killing my alts at world boss/field boss train; attacking us while doing guild boss; killing me/knocking me off horse while afk riding; attacking me on the road Heidel while traveling (placing traps on the road, shooting with nodewar matchlock from the cliff at Heidel pass); killing me while tending to my garden on my farming skill alt; killing me while gathering for no reason (they did not take my spot); killing me while fishing (not too many times, I learned quickly to fish in safe zones).

Yes, I'm biased, because all I have ever got from reds is griefing. I have never ever saw an example for red players being a positive factor in this game. Thus, I advocate for them being gone.

Had some "fun" being farmed on my matchlock alt at Rawr-Rawr, so ye, fk red karma players, the sooner they are gone the better. (And thats how they create bias against themselves and open world PVP, good job again.)

I have the very same experiences as this guy - the dislike must have some source, doesn't it? If you want to redesign karma system, you might first want to focus on the ways in which red players grief regular players, so that those regular players would not prefer deleting red players' accounts right away as a punishment. Otherwise it will be very hard to get general sympathies for your suggestions...

Last Edit : Apr 13, 2024, 16:35 (UTC)
# 22
On: Apr 13, 2024, 16:30 (UTC), Written by Asm

I have the very same experiences as this guy - the dislike must have some source, doesn't it? If you want to redesign karma system, you might first want to focus on the ways in which red players grief regular players, so that those regular players would not prefer deleting red players' accounts right away as a punishment. Otherwise it will be very hard to get general sympathies for your suggestions...

I disagree because the 'dislikes' are conveniently glossing over the other parts of the post that aren't solely about karma, again, like I said in the post - the suggestions I make are only valid if all of them are applied, not just one or two.

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Last Edit : Apr 13, 2024, 17:27 (UTC)
# 23
On: Apr 13, 24, 16:30 (UTC), Written by Asm

I have the very same experiences as this guy - the dislike must have some source, doesn't it? If you want to redesign karma system, you might first want to focus on the ways in which red players grief regular players, so that those regular players would not prefer deleting red players' accounts right away as a punishment. Otherwise it will be very hard to get general sympathies for your suggestions...

If you want to redesign the karma system, you'd also have to focus on the ways in which non-red players can also grief regular players.

In fact, that's the idea : a proper owpvp system in which players can use, control, counter pk by themselves in the scope of a complete pvpve system, all of this could be very cool and BDO-like. 

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