Misty haze with a 3 minute cooldown makes it practically meaningless in pve like (e.g. Oluns) and in any pvp that isn't a suicide charge, but still needs reduced effect to not be as broken in pvp as it was, either reduction as a whole, or just greatly reduced effect in pvp only,
either way it's basically an idle skill in the kit, like Over Here! is except that's a skill for emergency use, not active use, so does not break the the skill kit really, but Misty Haze needs to fit in an active skill rotation in some form or another, fix the skill, not just put a super long cooldown band-aid on it because some big name steamers got mad at shai players for supporting an apposing party/platoon.
Misty haze with a 3 minute cooldown makes it practically meaningless in pve like (e.g. Oluns) and in any pvp that isn't a suicide charge, but still needs reduced effect to not be as broken in pvp as it was, either reduction as a whole, or just greatly reduced effect in pvp only,
either way it's basically an idle skill in the kit, like Over Here! is except that's a skill for emergency use, not active use, so does not break the the skill kit really, but Misty Haze needs to fit in an active skill rotation in some form or another, fix the skill, not just put a super long cooldown band-aid on it because some big name steamers got mad at shai players for supporting an apposing party/platoon.
Funny enough it was nerfed because of pve not because of pvp. Elvia Calpheon mobs didnt have any HP and only DP to tanl amd with misty all times available shais went around basicly oneshotting trolls.
Better fix would have been give the mobs more HP and less DP or just reduce the stregth of the skill, cause its way to strong in pve and pvp. And pvp doesn't really have the long cd problem, cause 3 min are pretty short between pushes.
I would change cd back to 30s and make it a lot less strong. To even it out give shai more skills. Maybe a different debuff or a heal and another dmg skill with FG on it.
I want PA to pick a lane with shai so I can come back and maybe stream BDO again at this point to me EvE is better the PA's Main game and CCP Actually listens to their players.
PVE/PVP or Lifes skill/Support for shai not this half ass
Just an added note EvE Online has a constent 20k players and I belive BDO gets more but is doing worse so. Do Better Pearl Abyss
Very interesting that for a game that is 99.9% solo-focus (I say this because most party content is inorganic and forced) they make a class whose only strengths are buffing parties.
For those of us who want to be able to use Shai is a solo setting, which is practically all the time, Shai Succession could be an easy fix, as it would give a path to Shai players to no longer be buff-machines, but powerhouses in their own right.
I'm just tossing this idea out, but I must admit that I don't grind much with Shai, as her overall feel is clunky compared to Succ. Musa, Maewha, Berserker, Awak. Lahn, Nova, Striker and Mystic, that flow easily from one easy attack to another..... I only need to use a few keys to zip from one mob to another and get the most out of my time.
Anyway, day 3 of the protest. Cool to see other classes sometimes stopping by and getting in on the fun! It was hilarious to see a Hash waving a flag in line with the flag troupe.....
Funny enough it was nerfed because of pve not because of pvp. Elvia Calpheon mobs didnt have any HP and only DP to tanl amd with misty all times available shais went around basicly oneshotting trolls.
Better fix would have been give the mobs more HP and less DP or just reduce the stregth of the skill, cause its way to strong in pve and pvp. And pvp doesn't really have the long cd problem, cause 3 min are pretty short between pushes.
I would change cd back to 30s and make it a lot less strong. To even it out give shai more skills. Maybe a different debuff or a heal and another dmg skill with FG on it.
I despise the fact that this happened to shai all because of a content drop they made. Instead of doing something logical like give the problem monsters an immunity to the debuff, they gut and maime the shai class.
However that event only revealed that this class design was flawed from its conception, because shai is continuing to twist and distort the gameplay wherever she is.
REWORK SHAI, there is no other solution! Otherwise she will continue to just be a problematic figure.
I remember when Elvia Hexe came out and everyone complained that Shai can grind there with no gear, because of her stiff.
At that point I'm questioning if PA releases some spots the way they do to specifically create excuses to nerf Shai even more.
PA headquarters:
A: So we have these new Calpheon Elvia spots coming and a Shai buff in the pipeline. How do we make it not so obvious that we want to nerf Shai again?
B: Make one of the spots the only lategame spot in the game that can be CC'd and make it a stiff so only Shai profits and make the other spot have so much DR that Misty Haze is broken.
A: You're getting a promotion!
I bought a bicycle the other day and when I rode it home I was mad that the cars passing me were faster.
I could have bought a car but I wanted the bicycle. Put a 2.4Litre engine in my bike or ill riot outside the dealership
I'll grant there is logic in what you say, but grind speed is not the only issue with Shai.
And I remember that when PA nerfed Misty Haze, the combo everyone was talking about was Striker and Shai (Well, what I was hearing at the time).
Shai was nerfed.
Quod erat demonstrandum.
And no, I am not at all implying that Striker should be nerfed.
In my opintion, i think the main thing that needs to be reworked is shai passives... 300% combat exp from gather/alch is the real meme, most people who main lifeskills wont go past lvl49 on their main lifeskillers because being lvl65 doesnt benefit a Guru 50 Cook. I also think Shais are great at buff botting and theres nothing wrong with it, thats the bards job, if youre geared you can still grind.. early game is kinda weak but that because shai has bad movement which could use a change too but that could be fixed by adding better movement or add a early game pillar spot to teach new shais that pillars are the main way theyre gonna have to grind
I want PA to pick a lane with shai so I can come back and maybe stream BDO again at this point to me EvE is better the PA's Main game and CCP Actually listens to their players.
PVE/PVP or Lifes skill/Support for shai not this half ass
Just an added note EvE Online has a constent 20k players and I belive BDO gets more but is doing worse so. Do Better Pearl Abyss
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