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New Ancient Anvil enhancement system is an epic fail and extreme p2w.
Apr 10, 2024, 08:59 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Apr 16, 2024, 01:36 (UTC)
# 61
On: Apr 16, 2024, 00:58 (UTC), Written by TitanOfWar

You have seen PAs reactions lately for the last two years or more ... They always said they wouldnt have a PvP free server.. we got seasons... They said the game would always be about intereactions between players we got marnis realm  , even changed it to one hour cd. Then you have gvgs being shortend majorly suggestions of making it rng to cause major issues for newer guilds.

They said blackstar would match the boss variants an wouldnt replace them...look at boss weapons now. They said they would never fully replace specific progress.. they said they would never change the gvg systems.. then look at nodewars... sieges , they have said alot of things and done alot in the last two years alone to go against what they originally set out the game to be or displayed to players,that it wouldnt supprise me at this point if they start doing even more shady sh..  im not saying they will but we are already seeing how shady they are being.. Plus we have already seen some other KR companies doing some less than ideal things... You really cant count out PA doing the same when their shares are down, no im not saying this part is a kr thing buts its a possibility with how PA have been intereacting with the community in general.

Also i had orders for costumes for months on costumes i didnt get them that commonly if at all sometimes.. sure i quit but i wasnt burnout its the aggressive maneuvers PA are taking which have been even more aggressive  compared to previous aggressive changes... Especially with xigncode.  No i wasnt a gearlet either...

The pity system is a positive thing for the game.  For everyone. /end of story lol

Last Edit : Apr 17, 2024, 07:26 (UTC)
# 62
On: Apr 15, 2024, 19:48 (UTC), Written by Strega

My tet fg helm was 134 clicks, pen bs awk 73 and pen bs offhand 92, tet fg gloves 60.

No one will believe because no one would do something like that when they can buy it 10 times cheaper in the market.

On: Apr 15, 2024, 19:48 (UTC), Written by Strega

I would've hit pity on all of them and saved over a trillion silver.

How? Quantity of fail enchant is so large that the price of the guaranteed enchant is many times higher than the price of the item.

Ancient Anvil system doesn't care about your FS. You can have FS 100, you can have FS 200, you still have to fail 40 times to get a bs pen.
And 40 times bs pen fail costs 4 times more than the price of the bs pen from market.

On: Apr 15, 2024, 20:12 (UTC), Written by BREIKARMY

I was very unlucky last year my last bs went on this fs also 15 cron taps so this pity sistem is best thing they ever made . I dont even want to calculate how much pain it was 

How is this system supposed to help you if after 15 fail attempts with crons you have already lost more than the bs pen is worth, and now you will have to have even more fails.

Last Edit : Apr 17, 2024, 07:26 (UTC)
# 63
On: Apr 16, 2024, 01:36 (UTC), Written by Strega

The pity system is a positive thing for the game.  For everyone. /end of story lol

This system won't help anyone except p2w whales and it was created for them because even whales stopped paying seeing that in BDO you can spend thousands of dollars/euros and get nothing in return.
Throne and Liberty premiere is coming soon and I wonder what PA will do to keep players at BDO? Will they give away next two worthless BS tet weapons?
TaL may not be as good a game and with as much content as BDO, but TaL does not punish player for playing the way BDO does. TaL was supposed to have an enchantment system similar to BDO, but it was quickly withdrawn after player criticism. There is still an element of luck with enchantment, but system is simple and progressive, so everyone will have the best end game items in the game sooner or later. Additionally, in TaL you do not lose materials used for enchantment because TaL has an "enchant transfer" system. In other words, we can transfer an enchant from a weaker item to a better one.
So if PA does not change Ancient Anvil system to one in which guaranteed enchant is not more expensive than price of item from market, BDO will still be the same game it has been for many years, i.e. a meaningless grind.

Last Edit : Apr 17, 2024, 11:53 (UTC)
# 64

People who buy outfits can still buy 35 outfits a week and sell them on the market. it's like 60b/week so that they can easily buy the items they need so what you are saying is kind of pointless.

Also, you want to gamble but at the same time you don't want to accept the risk of spending more than what the item's worth. If they made it so that when gambling you can't spend more than the actual item price then it wouldn't be gambling and the whole enhancing system would be pointless

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Last Edit : Apr 17, 2024, 12:18 (UTC)
# 65
On: Apr 17, 2024, 11:52 (UTC), Written by She

People who buy outfits can still buy 35 outfits a week and sell them on the market. it's like 60b/week so that they can easily buy the items they need so what you are saying is kind of pointless.

Currently, endgame costs about 3,000 b. Calculate how long you would have to wait by selling outfits to save up for it all.

PA wants you to buy outfits and melt them on crones, click enchant and get nothing because you won't win with the probability calculation and 3-5% chance of success.

On: Apr 17, 2024, 11:52 (UTC), Written by She

Also, you want to gamble but at the same time you don't want to accept the risk of spending more than what the item's worth. If they made it so that when gambling you can't spend more than the actual item price then it wouldn't be gambling and the whole enhancing system would be pointless

On the contrary, only then would the Ancient Anvil system make sense. If you get it right the first time, you've won. If you succeed after 10 losses, you lost but won. And only such a system is fair and honest.

What risk since you are using crones? BDO is a casino and casino always wins. How can you beat casino? Not playing. And more and more people don't play, so PA added the Ancient Anvil system to show that it is possible to win. The only problem is how much this "winning" costs.

I'm not saying that the Ancient Anvil system is bad, just that it is badly scaled. 

Last Edit : Apr 17, 2024, 12:17 (UTC)
# 66
On: Apr 17, 2024, 07:26 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

No one will believe because no one would do something like that when they can buy it 10 times cheaper in the market.

How? Quantity of fail enchant is so large that the price of the guaranteed enchant is many times higher than the price of the item.

Ancient Anvil system doesn't care about your FS. You can have FS 100, you can have FS 200, you still have to fail 40 times to get a bs pen.
And 40 times bs pen fail costs 4 times more than the price of the bs pen from market.

How is this system supposed to help you if after 15 fail attempts with crons you have already lost more than the bs pen is worth, and now you will have to have even more fails.

it isnt there for market price its to stop the horror stories of people failing 100times on somthing and still not getting it dosnt do anything more then that if you choose not to buy of cm(from a vet there can only be 1 decent reason for this choice) then you gonna pay more then market that simple end of story no way around it my buddy paid 3tril sliver yes not 1 not 2 but 3 tril just get her name on all her blackstars was it worth for me hell no but for them they wanted their name on their things.

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Last Edit : Apr 17, 2024, 12:24 (UTC)
# 67
On: Apr 17, 2024, 12:17 (UTC), Written by Satsagu

it isnt there for market price its to stop the horror stories of people failing 100times on somthing and still not getting it dosnt do anything more then that if you choose not to buy of cm(from a vet there can only be 1 decent reason for this choice) then you gonna pay more then market that simple end of story no way around it my buddy paid 3tril sliver yes not 1 not 2 but 3 tril just get her name on all her blackstars was it worth for me hell no but for them they wanted their name on their things.

Why did they try 100 times?

The current prices of true end game items are prohibitive and unreasonably high, and you expect someone to be willing to pay 4 times more? So how many years does he have to play bdo? 30?

The average gamer expects 3 bs pen, whole fallen god set pen and all deboreka pen accessories in no more than one year, and that's while playing 2-3 hours a day.

Last Edit : Apr 17, 2024, 12:22 (UTC)
# 68
On: Apr 17, 2024, 12:11 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

Currently, endgame costs about 3,000 b. Calculate how long you would have to wait by selling outfits to save up for it all.

PA wants you to buy outfits and melt them on crones, click enchant and get nothing because you won't win with the probability calculation and 3-5% chance of success.

What risk since you are using crones? BDO is a casino and casino always wins. How can you beat casino? Not playing. And more and more people don't play, so PA added the Ancient Anvil system to show that it is possible to win. The only problem is how much this "winning" costs.

end game builds are around 1 tril to 1.5 they only get around 3bil if your including pen debos which arnt even needed to be competitive. Yes Bdo has a Casino element it always has the cards are stacked against it if you dont like the game simply dont play. Alot of people dont mind the Casino/Gambling aspect. Nowadays you only gamble on Debos and alc stones EVERYTHING else CAN BE BOUGHT FROM THE MARKET which is 100% Easier then wasting your time with RNG. Your complaing BECAUSE you dont get CARRIED by RNG.

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Last Edit : Apr 17, 2024, 14:24 (UTC)
# 69

The fact : This systeme further highlights the obviousness for some players, that it is much more interesting to buy rather than to enhance. no more no less

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Last Edit : Apr 17, 2024, 16:11 (UTC)
# 70

Where to start on this one lol.

1st you whole premise is some dude buys 40 taps of crons off vendor for his blackstar to get that obsurd number and noone does that.

2nd cuz you hoard everything now noone is allowed to count any drop except trash so we all only ave 400m per hour cuz you say so.

Now you don't believe anyone who has tapped many times that this new system will only help whales. Like man you know there are unlucky players and then you got those dudes who 3 tap their blackstar and 1 tap their pen debo and a whole ton of players who tap close to average. People tap hoping the get it cheaper. Sure you can buy everything and save you money and not have your name on stuff or you can gamble and get your name and save or lose money.

Now at least noone will get hard stuck watching newer players pass their gearscore while they just couldn't get anything to hit pen. 

It's a good system to help unlucky players no matter how many times you repeat your nonsense

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