Right so you intentionally go red due to you being overly emotional and not wanting to use more logical options you have available. And this is why PA has made sweeping changes to "ow griefing". Because of behavior like this. 

I play the game the way its meant be played. 

Defending the spot with PvP is legit.

you have your single player game now. 

I don't mention karmabombing because it doesn't exist. Its always been a player invented term. In addition, you have marni realm and boom. Magically there is no more karma bombing and ksing. Or if you want to pvp, there is arsha. I've been playing bdo since 2017 and I've never ran into the issue. But it doesn't matter what I say or what you say. PA has the data, acknowledged there were issues and made substantial changes to remove the issue. That's all there is to it. You are can argue, debate about it or whatever. But it is what it is boss. 

But it has been out of date for years. Bdo's design has always assumed conflicts between players. Maybe it made sense during the game's premiere and when bdo ended in calpheon and mediah areas, but currently open pvp in bdo makes no sense and only harms the game.

Same as karmabombing.

Did you notice that the marni system reconciled both sides?

The problem is that marni should function in all game zones and without a time limit.

But marni does not solve unwanted toxic PK outside mobs zones, e.g. horse training or bartering.

I don't think you understand that this is what most players want: a quiet solo game without interaction with other players. And the fact that bdo is an mmo game doesn't change anything because nowhere in the acronym mmo there is anything about playing party or co-op.

If someone wants to play a party in BDO, the game offers such activities, but the problem is that they are poorly implemented, poorly balanced and poorly rewarded. That's why only a handful of players go whale hunting or horse racing.

But it has been out of date for years. Bdo's design has always assumed conflicts between players. Maybe it made sense during the game's premiere and when bdo ended in calpheon and mediah areas, but currently open pvp in bdo makes no sense and only harms the game.

Same as karmabombing.

Sais who? You? You are just one person. Many people stated that they like OwPvP. To me fun always makes sence, and PvP is fun.

Did you notice that the marni system reconciled both sides?

The problem is that marni should function in all game zones and without a time limit.

I agree that if marni exist it should be in all zones and without time limit. But thats a simple player game. It killed MMO part in BDO.

But marni does not solve unwanted toxic PK outside mobs zones, e.g. horse training or bartering.
Ok. Once again. You can escape unlanted PK by several ways. Why you continue to cry in forums. Specialy now when its non existing. Almost.

I don't think you understand that this is what most players want: a quiet solo game without interaction with other players.
Most? Any prove? If we take forum most people are against destroying PvP. But yea forum is not representitive. We dont have the information to conclude what most players want. Are you a dev to know? or you have magic ball? If not you just fantasize.
And the fact that bdo is an mmo game doesn't change anything because nowhere in the acronym mmo there is anything about playing party or co-op.
MMO is acronim known for everyone exept you - ot means that many players play togheter, they interact each one to another. Marni is single player mode. Do you understand now???

If someone wants to play a party in BDO, the game offers such activities, but the problem is that they are poorly implemented, poorly balanced and poorly rewarded. That's why only a handful of players go whale hunting or horse racing.

Yes. And now most players just go to marni. And if few are there they cant do old good PvP because is not worthy. Exept for PKers. Whou you complain the most. So again PA only made PvE griefing stronger and kill OwPvPeven more.

No. You dont understand at all. I dont go overly emotional. I play the game the way its meant be played. I have option when someone come and KS to fight him, to change the server or leave and go to other char. I pick the one that is more fun to me. Also I must remind you that once the game was made right. When you die to PvP you lose XP. Thats why you have some to lose and you think if is it worth.
And whay you are silent about other types of griefing. Oh yea, because you use them non stop. So stop with the crap. I dont grief, I play the game. Defending the spot with PvP is legit. It was. Now is not worth so Im non stop on Arsha, sometimes even with tuvala chars. you have your single player game now. I say goodbuy to World Bosses, but what can I say when PA dont think what they do anymore. Or you are one of those who wants PvP removed from Arsha too ?

No sir, I don't bother anyone when I play the game. So nope "I don't grief players non stop". I know you are up in your feelings, but no matter how you feel PA seems to disagree with "that you were playing the game the way it was meant to be played." You still can, but going red will come with consequences. Which were always suppose to be felt according to the devs themselves.

No sir, I don't bother anyone when I play the game. So nope "I don't grief players non stop". I know you are up in your feelings, but no matter how you feel PA seems to disagree with "that you were playing the game the way it was meant to be played." You still can, but going red will come with consequences. Which were always suppose to be felt according to the devs themselves.