What is the goal of open world pvp in 2024?
Apr 17, 2024, 01:38 (UTC)
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# 81
On: Apr 22, 2024, 11:20 (UTC), Written by Asm
Again, I grinded 2 flames and 4 artifacts from pities. Not a single time did anyone grind over me on buffed servers in prime time. Not a single time. And 2 flames are already a large sample. But repeatedly someone came to backstab me for no reason and left. The story of defending your spot is exaggerated or mostly made up. Pushing people around was actually what red alts were used more often than not.
The entire notion that "PvP requires two consenting adults" is cringe af. Never has any good open world pvp game required "consent" to get you or your guild the Brooklyn beat down. Imagine in ARK or some shit the devs flipping the script and telling everyone base raids are toxic and reportable because people just wanna cuddle and raise dinos.
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# 82
On: Apr 22, 2024, 11:26 (UTC), Written by TitanOfWar
Unless your saying the game dies since September i call bs. Before i left an gvg changes occured i was consistently griefed at Hexe, Gyfin. Before that all potion spots and at hystria. Im assuming your one of the ones who goes an grinds over people since your trying to get PvX removed.
To your edit. Reds i very rarely saw outside of being on arsha, on normal servers was always a fotm grinder grinding over top of me. You either play a top tier class or your one of the ones who does grief peoples spots hence you wanting to have the penalty of being killed by the previous grinder being there before you removed.
You are assuming those points wrong, really. I always walk the place to see if there is a spot open and sometimes I have to go through 4 servers, but in the end, I always find a buffed open spot.
I have never grinded over someone if you do not count the occurrences when I did not notice someone being at a large spot (and they immediately chimped out on me full berserk instead of just saying that they were there first). This cannot even happen in Yzrahid, since you see the whole spot and cannot miss anyone. Moreover, I am not overgeared in any sense, having 1000 ap, so I can be outgrinded quite well in those 1100 cap spots.
You do not have to believe me of course, but I assume that interactions actually got more civilised since pocket ninjas are not the thing to solve everything anymore.
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# 83
On: Apr 22, 2024, 12:31 (UTC), Written by Vaidstone
The entire notion that "PvP requires two consenting adults" is cringe af. Never has any good open world pvp game required "consent" to get you or your guild the Brooklyn beat down. Imagine in ARK or some shit the devs flipping the script and telling everyone base raids are toxic and reportable because people just wanna cuddle and raise dinos.
Well, imagine devs doing exactly what you say in Fallout 76 and disabling non-consensual base raids because people got extremely toxic and the game started to bleed players (with more players than ARK). I am not aware of ARK PvP mechanics though, so I cannot comment on that.
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# 84
On: Apr 22, 2024, 11:43 (UTC), Written by Senemedar
Use marni, "problem" solved.
Thats the answer for the OP too. right. Problem solved close the topic.
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# 85
On: Apr 22, 2024, 12:31 (UTC), Written by Vaidstone
The entire notion that "PvP requires two consenting adults" is cringe af. Never has any good open world pvp game required "consent" to get you or your guild the Brooklyn beat down. Imagine in ARK or some shit the devs flipping the script and telling everyone base raids are toxic and reportable because people just wanna cuddle and raise dinos.
I've never played ARK, so I'm going to assume it does not have a karma system. If that is the case, then it would be comparable to Arsha rather than the standard server in BDO. The karma system was put in place to discourage players from imposing pvp upon others. Its the reason why there are "consequences" for doing so.
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On: Apr 22, 2024, 12:49 (UTC), Written by Asm
You are assuming those points wrong, really. I always walk the place to see if there is a spot open and sometimes I have to go through 4 servers, but in the end, I always find a buffed open spot. I have never grinded over someone if you do not count the occurrences when I did not notice someone being at a large spot (and they immediately chimped out on me full berserk instead of just saying that they were there first). This cannot even happen in Yzrahid, since you see the whole spot and cannot miss anyone. Moreover, I am not overgeared in any sense, having 1000 ap, so I can be outgrinded quite well.
You do not have to believe me of course, but I assume that interactions actually got more civilised since pocket ninjas are not the thing to solve everything anymore.
Its very comon to people to see the things only from their own perspective. I can assure you that something that dont happen to you happen all the time. To a point that, for me, is more easy to believe that you lie than accept it as true. In the same way I didnt PKed probably a year (except Arsha) should I say that PKing dont exist??? Well I see people complain so I gues should be true. I see some red players in game and streams. Do they lie? Nope. Same is with KSing. It exist. To be honest my only close interaction with other person on spot after the changes was exactly that - some person come and start to KS. Constantly.
And about civilised interactions to me they happen mostly on Arsha. Should I make conclusion about it or be smarter?
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# 87
On: Apr 22, 2024, 12:52 (UTC), Written by Asm
Well, imagine devs doing exactly what you say in Fallout 76 and disabling non-consensual base raids because people got extremely toxic and the game started t
On: Apr 22, 2024, 13:00 (UTC), Written by Vanraven
I've never played ARK, so I'm going to assume it does not have a karma system. If that is the case, then it would be comparable to Arsha rather than the standard server in BDO. The karma system was put in place to discourage players from imposing pvp upon others. Its the reason why there are "consequences" for doing so.
Bro, the consent is typed in the password field when you log on.....it's outlandish as hell to even think someone can say the word "non-consensual pvp" with a straight face. Next you're gonna tell me that if someone was drinking they cannot truly give consent. Lmao shit is wild.
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# 88
On: Apr 22, 2024, 13:07 (UTC), Written by Vaidstone
Bro, the consent is typed in the password field when you log on.....it's outlandish as hell to even think someone can say the word "non-consensual pvp" with a straight face. Next you're gonna tell me that if someone was drinking they cannot truly give consent. Lmao shit is wild.
Not really, PA says the same thing:
Penalties for Forced PvP, such as enhancement level decrese and crystal destruction, were rather weak. Even then, some could circumvent these by using different gear settings to continuously harass other adventurers. Therefore, we've decided to make the penalties a little stronger.
Karma is currently quickly and easily recoverable. Characters now have stronger gear, so are able to defeat more monsters in a shorter time frame, but Karma recovery rate wasn't changed to match this increase in power. So, we are going to decrease the rate of recovery to make Karma recovery consume more time.
On top of this, there were adventurers who continued to impose Forced PvP on others when they were already at the lowest possible Karma. To prevent repeated Forced PvP, we are also going to expand the bottom limit of Karma.
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# 89
On: Apr 22, 2024, 13:11 (UTC), Written by Vanraven
Not really, PA says the same thing:
Penalties for Forced PvP, such as enhancement level decrese and crystal destruction, were rather weak. Even then, some could circumvent these by using different gear settings to continuously harass other adventurers. Therefore, we've decided to make the penalties a little stronger.
Karma is currently quickly and easily recoverable. Characters now have stronger gear, so are able to defeat more monsters in a shorter time frame, but Karma recovery rate wasn't changed to match this increase in power. So, we are going to decrease the rate of recovery to make Karma recovery consume more time.
On top of this, there were adventurers who continued to impose Forced PvP on others when they were already at the lowest possible Karma. To prevent repeated Forced PvP, we are also going to expand the bottom limit of Karma.
I will repeat myself. Again. The complains are not so against this action. BUT. This action dont change the life of perma Reds. The ones who PK other non stop. This will affect the normal players, mostly those who try to defend their spot. Ofc probably will affeckt lifeskillers too. The ones who will PK yo uto clear the spot. But I believe those are rare.
Whatever its a bad move from PA becasue dont remove the problem, just brings more, hurting the innocent mostly.
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# 90
On: Apr 22, 2024, 13:11 (UTC), Written by Vanraven
Not really, PA says the same thing:
Penalties for Forced PvP, such as enhancement level decrese and crystal destruction, were rather weak. Even then, some could circumvent these by using different gear settings to continuously harass other adventurers. Therefore, we've decided to make the penalties a little stronger.
Karma is currently quickly and easily recoverable. Characters now have stronger gear, so are able to defeat more monsters in a shorter time frame, but Karma recovery rate wasn't changed to match this increase in power. So, we are going to decrease the rate of recovery to make Karma recovery consume more time.
On top of this, there were adventurers who continued to impose Forced PvP on others when they were already at the lowest possible Karma. To prevent repeated Forced PvP, we are also going to expand the bottom limit of Karma.
Oh no, I'm aware PA is soft. I'm also aware that saying " the game just ain't what it used to be" isn't a valid debate.
But I stand by the fact that making video game pvp follow the same consent rules as intercourse is wild AF.
Lol this is what happens when you have a bunch of fatherless households..... you get OF girls, and dudes needing consensual pvp... lol!
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